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GARDEN, Frances m James John Anderson 1860 Botriphnie
« on: Thursday 11 September 14 23:09 BST (UK) »
My grandmother, Anna Jane ANDERSON b 1881 Keith, is dau of James John ANDERSON and Francess (possibly Frances) GARDEN m 1860 Botriphnie, Banffshire. (from Anna's birth record)  Anna Jane ANDERSON had 3 siblings: Elizabeth (Eliza) b 1860 Botriphnie, Frances Mary b 1868 Keith, and James Alexander b 1878 Hester Chalder.  Anna Jane and James Alexander emigrated to Canada a few years before 1911.

Family memory suggests that Francess had two brothers - Alexander GARDEN (called Sandy) and James GARDEN- no idea when they were born.  Possibly neither was married.

I have not been able to find any information about Frances GARDEN's family and would be glad of any information anyone can provide. 

Alexis :)

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Re: GARDEN, Frances m James John Anderson 1860 Botriphnie
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 11 September 14 23:27 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

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Family memory suggests that Francess had two brothers - Alexander ANDERSON (called Sandy) and James ANDERSON - no idea when they were born.  Possibly neither was married.

Do you mean Alexander & James Garden if they were brothers of Frances?

The 1861 shows Frances as Fanny b 1842 Botriphnie

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Re: GARDEN, Frances m James John Anderson 1860 Botriphnie
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 11 September 14 23:47 BST (UK) »
1851 census for Botriphinie

George Garden   61 farmer 130 acres b Botriphinie
Elisabeth  50 b Kenethmont, Aberdeenshire
James  25 b Anstly, Aberdeenshire
Jane  20       ditto
Alexander  18 ditto
Ann  16           ditto
Fanny  9 b Botriphinie
Mary 4     ditto 
Robert Blackie   2 grandson b Botriphinie

The following were farm servants
Robert Mc Gowan   22
George Milne   20
Alexander Robertson   21
Alex McIntosh   14
James Dant   16
James Mc Donald 25 beggar

Botriphnie ED 2 Page 1 Line 7

In 1861 - James and Alexander were unmarried and still living with parents
Botriphnie ED 3 Page 1 Line 1
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Re: GARDEN, Frances m James John Anderson 1860 Botriphnie
« Reply #3 on: Friday 12 September 14 11:08 BST (UK) »
Francess (possibly Frances) GARDEN m 1860 Botriphnie, Banffshire

First of all, don't assign any sigificance to variants of spelling. Spelling was a moveable feast until about the 20th century, so there is no such thing as 'correct' spelling.

To find out who Frances' (and her husband's) parents were, go to www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and invest in a few credits at modest cost. Use some of them to find and download their marriage certificate. This will tell you the full names of all the parents, including their mothers' maiden surnames. Use this information to search in the International Genealogical Index https://familysearch.org/search/collection/igi for siblings.

The might also be something of interest in LIBINDX at http://libindx.moray.gov.uk/mainmenu.asp
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Re: GARDEN, Frances m James John Anderson 1860 Botriphnie
« Reply #4 on: Friday 12 September 14 22:17 BST (UK) »
Carole W - thanks for noticing my error - I have corrected names to GARDEN.  Also thanks for the 1851 census info.

Forfarian - thanks for the guidance re searching.  As a newbie, I have mostly been using family info to create the base outline, and then trying to add info.  Clearly there is a point where it is worthwhile to pay for information instead of wandering in the wilderness.  Very much appreciate the help.

Namma

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Re: GARDEN, Frances m James John Anderson 1860 Botriphnie
« Reply #5 on: Friday 12 September 14 22:59 BST (UK) »
I think James & Alexander were a pair of confirmed bachelors as they are still with their parents in 1871 aged 45 and 39 respectively and living together in 1881

1881 for Botriphinie - address Westertown.  They appear to be farming the same land as their father

James Garden   54 b Huntly Aberdeenshire Farmer Of 259 Acres (Of Which 220 Arable employing 4 Men 2 Girls 2 Boys)
Alexander  48  b Huntly
Jane Carmichael   50 sister  b Huntly
Jessie Carmichael 22 niece b Botriphinie
Botriphnie ED 3 Page 1 Line 2
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Re: GARDEN, Frances m James John Anderson 1860 Botriphnie
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 13 September 14 17:02 BST (UK) »
GEORGE Garden Baptised 10 July 1789, Parish Church, Botriphnie, Bannfshire
Parents ALEX'R and HELEN Garden
Mothers Surname GRANT
Abode Upper Towie
Wit: George Cummine & Alex'r Spence

SIBLINGS;
ALEXANDER, 24 Feb 1783
JOHN, 02 May 1784
JAMES, 03 May 1786
ROBERT, 15 June 1787
WILLIAM, 01 March 1791
ANNE, 10 Sept 1796

George GARDEN Married Helen GRANT, 13 Nov 1781 same Church

Source of above FreeREG

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