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Re: Alma Daviss (nee Dudley) born about 1866, i think.
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 14 September 14 17:58 BST (UK) »
This looks like Vera's death.

Graham Vera O Montgomery
Birth Date:
1 Aug 1895
Date of Registration:
Dec 1978
Age at Death:
83
Registration district:
Hammersmith
London
Volume:
12
Page:
1678

Vera used the surname of Craig when she married.
Cross Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Jennings Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Steel Byfield Northants,  Rogers Northants,  Wheeler Oxon,  Roberts Oxon,  Bonham Oxon/ Middleton Cheney Northants,  Maycock Northants,  Abbott Northants , Newman Northants, Buckingham Bucks, Hart Warks, Newth Gloucs.

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Re: Alma Daviss (nee Dudley) born about 1866, i think.
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 14 September 14 19:26 BST (UK) »
Mervel (transcribed on Ancestry as Meriel) had banns read as a Clavering Craig  in Charlton and according to this record married a Clair May Brown of the parish of St James', Farmley, Yorks  on 7 Nov 1918. I can;t find this on FreeBMD to check what name he used at the actual marriage (or much evidence of her with that spelling of Clair either)

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Re: Alma Daviss (nee Dudley) born about 1866, i think.
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 14 September 14 20:03 BST (UK) »
Mabel When Merval goes to the USA he says his wife is named Elsie ( that was in 1923 ) Then there is another document dated 1926 when he said he was widowed.

The only marriage I can see for him is in 1940 in Beds.
Cross Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Jennings Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Steel Byfield Northants,  Rogers Northants,  Wheeler Oxon,  Roberts Oxon,  Bonham Oxon/ Middleton Cheney Northants,  Maycock Northants,  Abbott Northants , Newman Northants, Buckingham Bucks, Hart Warks, Newth Gloucs.

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Re: Alma Daviss (nee Dudley) born about 1866, i think.
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 14 September 14 20:36 BST (UK) »
Thanks all for your  help!

You may be missing some children? ;D

Birth September qtr 1892
Richmond, Yorkshire district     vol 9d, page 693

Daviss, Fred Graham R D B 


Died same quarter, age 0    vol 9d, page 395



And only a death, but:
September qtr 1893
Gateshead district     vol 101, page 595
Daviss, Graham Ruby D    age 0

Yes, there is another one as well: Fred Graham RBD Davis, which seems to follow the naming pattern but I will have to order the certificates to be sure (have ordered quite a fees already so I am waiting for my next pay check!)


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Re: Alma Daviss (nee Dudley) born about 1866, i think.
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 14 September 14 20:43 BST (UK) »
I see that  Graham Roy Hylton Daviss was probably born just after the census of 1891 - do you have the address from that certificate, and have you been able to find the family in the 1891 census?  (And later censuses, too - I'm having trouble spotting them, so it would be helpful to see if they're together/which names are used when).

You might be able to trace their movements between censuses with archive.thestage.co.uk .

It is possible that Alma and Graham didn't marry until later in life, or never married at all.

Yes, I have possibly found them in the 1891 census but the names and ages are slightly out. Graham Daviss is James A Davies and the birth date is out by 8 years, so I have no idea if it is him. Alma Davies and Roy Davies are listed and the birth places and ages are correct, so I think it must be them. I found this totally mystifying to be honest!

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Re: Alma Daviss (nee Dudley) born about 1866, i think.
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 14 September 14 22:28 BST (UK) »
Cate Have you any idea where and when Graham and Alma died?

No idea about Alma but Graham died in 1917.

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Cate

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Re: Alma Daviss (nee Dudley) born about 1866, i think.
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 14 September 14 22:32 BST (UK) »
Roy Daviss joined the Territorial RFA in 1914, REg. No. 2128.
Wife Mary Elizabeth Hughes; married 16/4/1914?
Son Graham Roy Hylton Davies born January 1915.
Place of birth: Glasgow
Occupation: Actor.

Private 277886 Merval Clavering Craig, Labour Corps
Cafe Porter and Farmers Lad
Next of Kin: Mother, 16 York Street, Covent Garden
Home Address: 72 Samuel Street, Woolwich
Birthplace: Glasgow
Enlisted at Halifax.


From a reasonably well documented tree on Ancestry!

I think that is from my tree! Generally I have found traces of the family but have ground to a real halt with Alma.

Thanks for the help though!

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Re: Alma Daviss (nee Dudley) born about 1866, i think.
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 14 September 14 22:35 BST (UK) »
As the children were born in three different areas it looks like they were part of a travelling theatre group, on the 8th. September 1900 a newspaper called "The Era" published a report on a play under the heading "Amusements in Belfast" that they were both in, if you can find the name of the group they performed in you may be able to find out more from a theatre history site.
Just as point of interest why were the children all given the first name of Graham, even the girl

Thanks, I have found them in theatre programmes (we have some that have been passed down throughout he family, too). I hadn't thought of trying to work out if they were in a company though, so I will see if I can work that out - thanks. No idea about why they were all called Graham!

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Re: Alma Daviss (nee Dudley) born about 1866, i think.
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 14 September 14 22:36 BST (UK) »
There are suggestions that Graham was born Charles Graham Baker on 22/1/1872 in Glasgow son of Charles Baker and Florence Craig.

Yes, pretty sure this is right (Baker is known as a family name)

Thanks!