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« on: Wednesday 17 September 14 13:05 BST (UK) »
I have found a family in Little Hadham, parents Daniel ELCOCK and Naarah CANE, whose earliest children seem to have been baptised twice - the first 6 children were baptised at "Independent" Little Hadham (not quite sure what that means, but I'm assuming non-conformist?), but then these and subsequent 7 children are all baptised later at St Cecilia - the first 6 and the 7th child all on the same day. Just wondering if this was unusual for the 1830s- 1840s?


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Re: baptised twice?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 17 September 14 13:34 BST (UK) »
Apparently there were differences of opinion in the Church of England at that time as to the validity of non-conformist baptism, which is probably why they were baptised again at St. Cecilia, at the insistence of the vicar.

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Re: baptised twice?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 17 September 14 13:43 BST (UK) »
i too have some families being baptised twice -- once in a non-conformist church then again in the CoE Parish church

I also have an example of a (first) baby being baptised twice - once in the Parish church of where the family were living and then again about a month later in the Parish Church of the mother's family home

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Re: baptised twice?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 18 September 14 12:32 BST (UK) »
Thanks Stan and Marmalady, interesting attitudes of the  time - makes me wonder whether the family considered themselves C of E, or were just doing it for some other perhaps social/economic reason.  :)


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Re: baptised twice?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 18 September 14 12:48 BST (UK) »
The families probably considered themselves Non-conformist -- but felt they had to also have the CoE baptism to fit in with the social norm
If they has a particularly ardent vicar haranguing them regularly about the baptism of their children they might have said yes to a second baptism just to get him off their backs!
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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 18 September 14 12:55 BST (UK) »
It could have been due to pressure from Family members too.
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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 18 September 14 13:31 BST (UK) »
Thanks again, yes you're both probably right, a mixture of reasons perhaps.

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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 18 September 14 15:54 BST (UK) »
In those days when removal of the poor back to their home parish still took place baptism in the parish church was necessary to establish residence.
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Re: baptised twice?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 22 September 14 02:41 BST (UK) »
Interesting! I didn't know the poor had to go back to their home parish for relief. I have a couple of ancestor's in workhouses, but they hadn't moved from their original parishes.