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Re: William Wainwright
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 24 September 14 11:37 BST (UK) »
I asked before, is there a record of his service with the Merchant Navy?
yes he applies for his wartime medals in 1923 and recieves them there is a record in the national archives

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Re: William Wainwright
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 24 September 14 12:15 BST (UK) »
I am a little baffled here now ....
Holy Trinity church - Garston - where I live
Holy Trinity church Walton Breck Road - Walton on the Hill
Holy Trinity church Wavertree - a HUGE church
Holy Trinity church Formby
no Toxteth Holy Trinity ............
so
is this just a coincidence - or - was Ada Cope actually Catherine Kavanagh ??
by coincidence
Toxteth Park - St Patricks
1897 ref No 440  St Patricks ,Toxteth - William Wainwright to Catherine Kavanagh - REQUEST FORM

you can purchase a copy of the marriage record for £3
http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co.uk/liverpoolrcmarriages/marriages.php
1897
william wainwright - submit
gives that record I have just posted ....IF ADA was under age or on the run - could she have changed her name ??
just can`t understand how Banns were posted at Holy Trinity, Toxteth - let me see if I can find any records from that church - if you google Holy Trinity Liverpool , you will only get the churches I have posted ...as I say - I am a little baffled by that church -UNLESS St Patricks was formerly Holy Trinity ??
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OK St James church - formerly - St James with St Anthony with Holy Trinity - Toxteth Park
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Liverpool/Toxteth/indexsj.html
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Re: William Wainwright
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 24 September 14 13:01 BST (UK) »
I asked before, is there a record of his service with the Merchant Navy?
yes he applies for his wartime medals in 1923 and recieves them there is a record in the national archives

Yes, but was there a service record?
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Re: William Wainwright
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 24 September 14 14:01 BST (UK) »
Just to rule out that other 1897 marriage.

William Wainwright 26 (BMD has William Edward) and Catherine 25 are together in 1901 with her brother Thomas Kavanagh 28.
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Re: William Wainwright
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 24 September 14 15:02 BST (UK) »
OK...Thanks Millipede...we can rule that out then
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Re: William Wainwright
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 24 September 14 15:36 BST (UK) »
I asked before, is there a record of his service with the Merchant Navy?
yes he applies for his wartime medals in 1923 and recieves them there is a record in the national archives

Yes I saw that but as KGarrard says, is there a record of service? I wonder if he joined up after 1911 - wartime and that was the reason for the move.
You have mentioned him sailing out of Liverpool but is this known or supposition?
Find My Past -a subscription site has some service records, I think.

According to National Archives  though, I think the war years records are not available. :(
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Re: William Wainwright
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 24 September 14 16:38 BST (UK) »
I have a copy of the Banns from 1897 in respect of William Wainwright and Ada Cope the Church is Holy Trinity Parliment Street Toxeteth Park the Banns are read on the 3/10/17 October
I have a copy of the marriage certificate in respect of a William Wainwright who is described as a Baker and an Ada Cope who is described as a spinster , dated 22/09/1912  at St timotheys Church Rokeby street walton on the hill ,witnesses are an Emily Ada wainwright and A James Wainwright
Cant be that Many William Wainwrights and Ada Copes getting married around that time , William and Ada apear on the 1901 census as Man and wife , he is down as a Baker/Journeyman so it is possible he moved to Bristol to go to sea...but a bit strange as was living in a major port
evidence for him being at Sea is as follows National archives medical card f Catalogue Reference:BT/351/1 and this from an E mail from a relative of Mrs hurst (who does not seem to have actually got married to Mr hurst )
Living together (2nd) 1918 to WAINWRIGHT (Mrs.Hurst), Ethel , born on 13-11-1894 in Everton(Liverpool) (source: Somerset House), christened (Prot.) 1894 in St.Peters Ch.,Liverpool (. Confirmed 27-11-1915 at St.Mary Redcliffe, Bristol. Died on 19-02-1976in Bishops Hull, Somerset at the age of 81 (source: Zingra Setherton), cremated in Taunton Crematorium, daughter of WAINWRIGHT, William (Bill) , Cook in the Merchant Navy, and COPE, Aida
If he signed up for the merchant Navy at the beginning of the war at the age of 43 is there a way i can find a record i don,t know what ships he was on ?

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Re: William Wainwright
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 24 September 14 16:48 BST (UK) »
it sounds to me as if he was a baker who moved to Bristol, to be a baker there.

On signing up for WW1, he joined the Navy and, because he worked in kitchens, he was appointed the task of ship's cook?

Incidentally Bristol was also a major sea port! ;D
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