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Re: Hi im new to all of this
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 05 October 14 19:13 BST (UK) »
Thank you all so much for all your help, you are just wonderful.. I had a bit of help from a friend from church and this is what he sent me....


 John james Wilson born 1874 at 24 mosley st w h pool on the 1881 census he had two siblings Mary Jane b 12 Aug 1870 and Elizabeth b 1881 probably had more children that might have died you will have to check the Stranton records there perents George Wilson b 1842 in Woolwich mar 15 Sep 1869 to Cicily Brown b 22 Jan 1846 in middleton H pool died 1902 George died 12 Sep 1930 in H pool Georges dad James Wilson b 1816 Oswestry Salop mar a Catherine b 1819 in Liverpool had four children of the census could be more? 1st Elizabeth b 1837 Liverpool George b 1842 wollwich James b1847 Woolwich Jane b 1850 Wollwich cicely's parents where John brown b 1791 in Bishop Middleton Dur and Mary Saint b 1812 in hpool it stops there have you got the Douglasses side??
 

 







Esther's parents where George Douglas b 1849 or 1846 on the 1881 census he was 32 on the 91 he was 45 his wife was Sarah Jane Simpson born about 1855 in winlaton  George was from Washington Dur children 1st George b 1878 in Biddic Dur Esther b 1880 same place Frances 1881 same William 1884 all born in Stockton now Hannah1888 Helena 1890 Thomas 1894 Ethel 1890 Sarah Janes perents William Simpson b 1811 Walker Northumberland Frances the mother b 1810 same kids 1st John b 1834 all now Winlaton Durham Edward 1835 Mary ann 1838 William 1840 George 1842 Ralph 1846 Isabella 1850 Sarah Jane direct line 1853 Frances 1855 and Elizabeth 1860 you can check all these on Ancestry sorry I could not find out much more happy searching

Also, My moher tells me that Esther and john james eloped,, because one of them was upper class.. and their relationship wasn't approved, so maybe they didn't marry. its a mystery
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RE James Wilson married a Catherine b 1819 in Liverpool - firstborn Elizabeth Wilson b 1837 in Liverpool
this might be the marriage of James Wilson and Catherine - the only one I could find
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NFXL-R5Q
this looks like the right one to me because Catherine named her firstborn Elizabeth after her mother ??
Baptism: 10 May 1818 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Catharine Hubbard - Daughter of John Hubbard & Elizth.
    Abode: Maguire St.
    Occupation: Gardiner
so Catherine was born 1818 - not 1819
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Re: Hi im new to all of this
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 05 October 14 19:28 BST (UK) »
if I have the right Catherine that married James Wilson
Catherines mothers name was Bewes and here are Catherines siblings

Baptism: 3 Apr 1803 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Sophia Hubbard - dau. of John Hubbard & Elizabeth (formerly Bewes), His Wife
    Born: 7 Mar 1803
    Abode: Eccles Street
    Occupation: Labourer
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Baptism: 18 Dec 1808 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Hubbard - Daughter of John Hubbard & Elizabeth (formerly Bives), His Wife
    Born: 17 Aug
    Abode: Maguire Street
    Occupation: Gardener
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Baptism: 16 Feb 1812 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
George Hubbard - Son of John Hubbard & His Wife Elizabeth (formerly Bews)
    Born: 13 Jan 1812
    Abode: Maguire St
    Occupation: Gardener
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Baptism: 28 Nov 1813 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Robert Hubbard - Son of John Hubbard & Elizabeth
    Abode: Maguire St
    Occupation: Labourer
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Baptism: 7 Jan 1816 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Charles Hubbard - Son of John Hubbard & Elizabeth
    Abode: Maguire St.
    Occupation: Labourer
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Baptism: 10 May 1818 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Catharine Hubbard - Daughter of John Hubbard & Elizth.
    Abode: Maguire St.
    Occupation: Gardiner
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Baptism: 23 Apr 1820 St Nicholas, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Mary Anne Hubbard - Daughter of John Hubbard & Elizth.
    Abode: Maguire St.
    Occupation: Gardener

swaps from Gardener to Labourer frequently - but Maguire st each time except for firstborn Sophia who is Eccles Street

I can`t find a marriage in England for John Wilson to Elizabeth Bewes ??
maybe Scottish or Irish ??


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Re: Hi im new to all of this
« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 09 February 16 21:54 GMT (UK) »
Hello, its been so long since I was here on site, and I am so grateful for all your help, I had actually forgotten that I posted on here, but I will be hanging around a lot more now, this is  agreat group with such wonderful and helpful members, thank you all so much

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Re: Hi im new to all of this
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 10 February 16 12:31 GMT (UK) »
That is all spot on, thank you so very much Garstonite, I am so very grateful for your time and help on this.

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Re: Hi im new to all of this
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 13 February 16 11:27 GMT (UK) »
I am now searching for information on my granddads mother, Emily Ethel Oldfield, she was born 1901 in lanchester, her mother died when she was a baby or could of been during childbirth.. could anyone help me please ?

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Re: Hi im new to all of this
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 13 February 16 11:32 GMT (UK) »
Was her father John Henry Oldfield? If so the family are together in the 1911 census, but we are not allowed to give details here.

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Re: Hi im new to all of this
« Reply #33 on: Saturday 13 February 16 11:34 GMT (UK) »
This looks like her father and Mother  John H Oldfield and Emily in 1901 Lanchester - prior to the birth of Emily

John H Oldfield   33 Born 1868 Blyth, Northumberland,
Emily J Oldfield   26 Born 1875 Fences House Durham
William E Oldfield 9 Martha H Oldfield   7
Mary E Oldfield5 Margaret Oldfield   2

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« Reply #34 on: Saturday 13 February 16 11:36 GMT (UK) »
Possible for 1891 - Lanchester -  - living with the in-laws

Wm P Dodds   59Mary H Dodds   55
Wm R Dodds   25
Geo Greenwell   21 Wm Greenwell 22
Jno Hy Oldfield aged 23 Emily J Oldfield aged 17 years
Bridget Cozier   14
Joseph Reid   4

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« Reply #35 on: Saturday 13 February 16 11:37 GMT (UK) »
John Henry Oldfield married Emily Jane Dodds - Lanchester 10a 447 - Q1 March 1891

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