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Orry Graham
« on: Sunday 05 October 14 07:47 BST (UK) »
Brother of Gerard Gay Graham who died 1960. And brother of Marmaduke Whittaker Graham, who died WW1 in Mesopotamia. Marmy was Awarded VC postumously. Believe Orry died in France. Was he a soldier? Or did he die there, but not a military death? Can't track him down. ORRY is correct for his Christian name.

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Re: Orry Graham
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 05 October 14 07:58 BST (UK) »
Hi

Welcome to rootschat  :)

I presume that this is the family you are referring to (1881)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XQQ7-714

William Graham   43   bn Hinxton, Cambridgeshire
Sarah A    45   Ipswich, Suffolk
Ethel 12   Notting Hill, Middlesex
Gerard 7   Notting Hill, Middlesex
Annie V 6   Notting Hill, Middlesex
Norah 4   Wandsworth, Surrey
Marmaduke W    2   Wandsworth, Surrey

Birth June qtr 1879   
Marmaduke Whitaker Graham
Wandsworth    1d   673

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In 1891 they have a 20 year old son John with them who is absent from 1881 census
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Re: Orry Graham
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 05 October 14 08:06 BST (UK) »
It is the Graham family in this census 1881 - but there is no ORRY - perhaps he hadn't be born yet - and will be younger brother - in due course - of Gerard and Marmy.  My mother, Lucy Graham - first child of Gerard Graham and Lilyan Esslemont - said Orry died in France.

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Re: Orry Graham
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 05 October 14 10:51 BST (UK) »
the only British O . Graham in WW1 casualties   - not yours - so it looks like he wasn`t a War casualty.
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/533041/GRAHAM,%20O
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mmm - I can`t find any records on www.freebmd.org.uk for Orry Graham / Orrie Graham ??
could you post the correct spelling that you have and where your records are from ??
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Re: Orry Graham
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 05 October 14 11:29 BST (UK) »
The following children were baptised at Ladbroke Grove to William & Sarah Ann Graham.

Williams occupation Barrister (at Law.)

Ethel Graham7 Oct 1868
Ada Matilda Graham 5 Nov 1869
John Graham 17 Nov 1870
William James Holmes Graham 9 May 1872
Gerard Graham (no middle name) 26 Jul 1873
Annie Valerie Graham 11 Nov 1874
Norah Graham 2 November 1876
Marmaduke Whitaker Graham 16 Apr 1879
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Re: Orry Graham
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 05 October 14 11:31 BST (UK) »
perhaps he hadn't be born yet - and will be younger brother - in due course - of Gerard and Marmy. 

He does not appear on the 1891 with the family, by then Sarah would be 55 years old (she is not with the family) but maybe a bit old for having children after that  :-\

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Sarah is still in Wandsworth in 1891
Sarah A Graham    53
William J Graham 19
Ann E Graham 16
Norah Graham 14

The rest of the family are in Cumberland
William Graham   53
Ethel Graham   22
John Graham   20
Marmaduke Whitaker Graham 12
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Re: Orry Graham
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 05 October 14 11:38 BST (UK) »
The only sons (found so far) are John, William James Holmes, Gerard & Marmaduke Whitaker.

Are you sure 'Orry' is a brother? looking at the names of children there's a sister called Norah.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Orry Graham
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 05 October 14 11:48 BST (UK) »
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Are you sure 'Orry' is a brother? looking at the names of children there's a sister called Norah.
In 1891 Sarah Graham was 53.
Have you found them after 1891?
I see Gerard is in lodgings in 1901.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Orry Graham
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 05 October 14 11:54 BST (UK) »
1911 William James Holmes Graham  https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XWBX-FJ5


1911 Gerard - I assume they meant place of birth as Notting Hill https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XWM6-YSB
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