Joseph PYM Belper lookups for Births & Deaths

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Hello
I have a lookup request to help me understand more of the Josephs of Belper in the mid 19th century.

3 Joseph's are born in 1840s

JAS 1840 Joseph, son of Joseph and Sarah (Frost)

JAS 1841 Joseph, son of George and Rebecca (Barber)

OND 1843 Joseph, son of - a look up would help here


There are several deaths of Jospeh Pym during this period

JAS 1844 - a burial look up would be helpful - my hunch is that this may be the 1844 birth

JAS 1853 - I think this is Joseph b. 1805, husband of Sarah Frost above.  They appear on the 1851 census.  Have not access to 1861 to confirm.

The remaining Joseph I am seeking is Joseph b. 1782, husband of Rosamund (Mawkes)
There is a gravestone in St Peters Churchyard for Rebecca and Joseph where his death is recorded as May 1857.  However I cannot find a death record on FreeBMD for that year.

Any help valued.  thanks.

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I should add that the 1840 and 1841 Josephs go on to appear with families of their own in future census records.

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JAS 1853 - I think this is Joseph b. 1805, husband of Sarah Frost above.  They appear on the 1851 census.  Have not access to 1861 to confirm.

I am wondering if Sarah died before 1861
there is this burial
Sarah Pym
y.o.b. 1807
burial 2 Aug 1856
St Peters belper Derbys
age 49

1861 Joseph is living with brother James

Suz

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There are several deaths of Jospeh Pym during this period



JAS 1853 - I think this is Joseph b. 1805, husband of Sarah Frost above.  They appear on the 1851 census.  Have not access to 1861 to confirm.

I think this may be the death of Josephb.c.1782 who was married to Rosamund Hawkes
There is this burial
Joseph Pym
12 Aug 1853
St Peters belper
age 71

Suz

[pjm99]

The MI has Joseph who died May 10 1853, aged 71 years, not 1857 and there is a matching death registration on FreeBMD. Rosamund died 1857.
Peter

[suzard]

There is this Joseph who could have been born 1843/4
1851
Toadmore heage Derbyshire (Belper reg district)
John Pym Head M 65 ???CField lab Derby
Cathe (Catherine?)wife 53 Kilbourne Derbys
John son 22 Pudler belper Derbys
Hannah daughter 15 Cotton Factory Toadmore Derbys
Mary daughter 12 Cotton factory Toadmore
Josh(Joseph) son 7 scholar Toadmore
HO107 2145 68 24

Suz

[spendlove]

Hi,

May I give a little advice, when researching the Pym families of Belper it is very important
to understand their occupations.

Joseph b. 1782 died 10.5.1853 = Rosamund Mawks 7.3.1802 Duffield 
THIS FAMILY WERE CLERKS/LEGAL SIDE EVENTUALLY SOLICITORS

JOSEPH PYM b 1805 = Sarah Frost 21.3.1831 Duffield
THIS FAMILY WERE THE JOINERS/CABINET MAKERS.

If you post some details of who you are looking for I will try to assist.

Spendlove

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Thanks to all for info everyone.

I checked the St. Peters gravestone records on belper-research.com and found the dating of death 1857 recorded for Joseph, husband of Rosamund.  The 1853 burial I then had down for Joseph (husband of Sarah Frost) b. 1805.

spendlove, the family I am tracing is the cabinet makers based on Bridge Street.
Their son Joseph Pym b. 1840 Belper is my wife's GG Granfather.
 
I hadn't realised there were distinct Pym families in Belper, thought they could well be related.  Is there any link at all?  And which line are the previous generation Joseph and Dorothy buried in St Johns Chapel early 19th century?

The family seems to have had various premises on Bridge St, though I cannot pinpoint any exact property/address.

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Of course the age 71 on the 1853 death rules out Joseph b.1805.  Hadn't clicked!