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Mary Jane Birnie & Lachlan McNeil; Isabella Birnie & Malcolm McNeil
« on: Monday 06 October 14 21:59 BST (UK) »
Please can someone help me with the following queries?

I am trying to find more information about the above couple, in particular, Mary Jane Birnie (my great great aunt). The couple married on 3rd June in 1887 at 8 Athole Gardens, Kelvinside, Partick in Glasgow. According to the wedding certificate, her husband Lachlan was a farmer from Carskey, Southend, Argyleshire.

I understand that Mary Jane died in 1916 in the Conway Reg.Dist of Caernarvonshire,Wales, aged 62 and that she apparently had children (Mary (aka Daisy), Neil and John). Two of these children seem to have been born in Anglesey (in the Beaumaris area). Does anyone have any information regarding the above couple and their children and the location of their graves in the Conway district of Wales? Ideally I would like to visit the Anglesey area and visit Mary Jane's grave.

I am also trying to find more information regarding Mary Jane's sister (Isabella) who married Lachlan McNeil's brother (Malcolm) on 16th June, 1880 at Mull of Kintyre Lighthouse in Argyleshire. Isabella and Malcolm last appear in the 1901 Census as living at “Garvaith”, in the Parish of Southend. Isabella was born on 29th December, 1858 at Mull of Galloway Lighthouse. I have been unable to track what happened to this couple or their children beyond this point; the couple seem to have vanished and I wonder if they emigrated abroad.

Thanking you in advance.

Best regards, Birnro

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Re: Mary Jane Birnie & Lachlan McNeil; Isabella Birnie & Malcolm McNeil
« Reply #1 on: Monday 06 October 14 23:15 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

There is no death in 1916 listed for Mary Jane in Conway  www.freebmd.org.uk

If she was 62 when she died that gives a birthyear of around 1854 making her 33yrs old or thereabouts when she married Lachlan.  Does that tie in with the records you have for her (ie) age on marriage cert

Freebmd does have a birth for a Neil McNeil in the March qtr 1891 Bangor
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Re: Mary Jane Birnie & Lachlan McNeil; Isabella Birnie & Malcolm McNeil
« Reply #2 on: Monday 06 October 14 23:24 BST (UK) »
the daughter Mary Jane   married  Thomas Carpenter Davis in 1916 in Llandudno.Her father Lachlan was said to be deceased by then.
MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: Mary Jane Birnie & Lachlan McNeil; Isabella Birnie & Malcolm McNeil
« Reply #3 on: Monday 06 October 14 23:26 BST (UK) »
1901 spelt as McNiel - living in Llandudno

Lachlan McNiel 41 b Scotland - shepherd
Mary J  46 Scotland
Mary J  12 Scotland
John H  8 Llandudno
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Re: Mary Jane Birnie & Lachlan McNeil; Isabella Birnie & Malcolm McNeil
« Reply #4 on: Monday 06 October 14 23:30 BST (UK) »
Neil McNeil died in 1897  age 6.


First name(s)
NEIL

Last name
MCNEIL

Age
6

Birth year
1891

Death year
1897

Burial year
1897

Burial day
16

Burial month
Feb

Parish
Llandudno

Place
LLANDUDNO

MCHUGH {mayo/manchester}   OHora,MCHALE{mayo/manchester /chicago}  KENNY{Manchester}   TIMPERLEY{wilmslow-bollin fee,Manchester} SMITH{manchester}  LEE{Colne,manchester,Cheshire} VENABLES {Styal.Cheshire} PAYTON {Staffs/Manchester}McCARTHY{TIPPERARY/MANCHESTER}  EAMES/AMS/HEAMES/HAMES/AYMES {Wilmslow/Manchester} Eames/Aymes  {Ireland/Manchester/Cheshire
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Re: Mary Jane Birnie & Lachlan McNeil; Isabella Birnie & Malcolm McNeil
« Reply #5 on: Monday 06 October 14 23:30 BST (UK) »
Death reg spelt McNeill

December qtr 1916

 Mary J McNeill aged 62  Conway  11b   627   

Deaths December qtr 1914   also McNeill
Lachlan McNeill  54    Conway    11b   608
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Re: Mary Jane Birnie & Lachlan McNeil; Isabella Birnie & Malcolm McNeil
« Reply #6 on: Monday 06 October 14 23:32 BST (UK) »
Hi

This looks like her Death Record

Mary J McNeill

Birth abt 1854

Died Dec 1916

Reg district Conway Caernarvonshire

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 06 October 14 23:33 BST (UK) »
Hi Marg - see my reply above
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« Reply #8 on: Monday 06 October 14 23:35 BST (UK) »
Hi Marg - see my reply above
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Parker Stafford.
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Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich