Samuel Wild, 1830, Lancashire

[Reg Wild]

Hello.  Samuel Wild is my great, great grandfather.  His death certificate, dated Feb.15, 1861, indicates age as 30.  The 1851 Census for Harwood gives birthplace as Little Hulton, and parents as William (born about 1805, Ratcliffe/Radcliffe) and Hannah Wild (born about 1804, Blakeley/Blackley).  I cannot find any record of birth for Samuel, but I see that a William married a Hannah Bottomley in Manchester in 1828 - is it possible he was christened in Manchester?  It is very confusing.  Any assistance in this matter is greatly appreciated   Thank you.  Regards. 

[MargP]

Hi Reg and a warm welcome to RootsChat

Who was the informant on the Death Certicate

[MargP]

Hi Reg

On the 1841 census, I note, that there is a 4 year gap between Thomas and William, could Hannah be his second wife, and Hannah is not the mother of the first 4 children

Margp

[Reg Wild]

Hi MargP.

Thanks for the welcome, and the interest in my post.

Samuel's father, William, was the informant.  I also wondered if William remarried, and have been hoping that details of Samuel's birth and/or christening would answer that. 

Reg

[pinefamily]

What about Samuel's siblings? Do they have the same, or different, birthplace listed in the 1851 census? It might pay to check any of the birthplaces listed for the children; it is far to often that we find errors like this in the census returns.

[garstonite]

it wasn`t unusual for children to be baptised when they were 4/5/6/7 especially if the family were on the poor side - or dad worked away
what was Williams occupation ??
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
I wonder if Hannah is - Annis ??

Baptism: 25 Jun 1837 St John the Baptist, Hey, Lancashire, England
Samuel Wild - Son of William Wild & Annis
    Abode: Roe Street Saddleworth
    Occupation: Spinner
    Baptised by: J. Mattinson
this would make Samuel 6 or 7 at baptism  ??...in any case , we need to at least research this baptism if only to rule it out ...

[garstonite]

Hello.  Samuel Wild is my great, great grandfather.  His death certificate, dated Feb.15, 1861, indicates age as 30.  The 1851 Census for Harwood gives birthplace as Little Hulton, and parents as William (born about 1805, Ratcliffe/Radcliffe) and Hannah Wild (born about 1804, Blakeley/Blackley).  I cannot find any record of birth for Samuel, but I see that a William married a Hannah Bottomley in Manchester in 1828 - is it possible he was christened in Manchester?  It is very confusing.  Any assistance in this matter is greatly appreciated   Thank you.  Regards.

as Saddleworth is Oldham area - and I can`t find a marriage for William Wild to Annis - I did find this - BOTH under age ....can anyone tell me if a Weaver can become a Spinner ?? if not , we can rule this marriage out

Marriage: 21 Feb 1830 St Mary, Oldham, Lancashire, England
William Wild - (X), Weaver, Prestwich
Hannah Whitworth - (X), Spinster, Prestwich
    Witness: James Jackson; Ralph Jackson
    Married by Banns with consent of parties by: J. Fallowfield

[heatherjulie]

Hi
Is this the family at Lee Gate Lane?
1851
William Wild  47
Anna Wild  46
John Wild  19 Little Hulton
Thos Wild  17 Harwood
Wm Wild  12 Harwood
Alice Wild  10 Harwood
James Wild  7 Harwood
Samuel Wild  21 Little Hulton
Charles Wild  3 Harwood
RG/107/2208/155/5

1841
Lee Gate Lane
William Wild  35
 Hannah Wild  35
 Richard Wild  15
 Sarah Wild  13
 Samuel Wild  11
 John Wild  9
 Thomas Wild  7
 William Wild  3
 Alice Wild  5 Mo
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[heatherjulie]

Could this be John's baptism?
Baptism: 29 Feb 1832 St Peter, Blackley, Lancashire, England
John Wild - Son of William Wild & Hannah
Abode: Landsend
Occupation: Bleacher
Baptised by: Edward Weigall