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Offline Paige20

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Looking for grandparents of Elizabeth Clayton
« on: Thursday 09 October 14 03:44 BST (UK) »
So, I have a certificate from the cemetary of Elizabeth with her parents and I have the 1851 and 1861 Census in England. This is the main information:

Where born: Lowdham, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
Town: Nottingham
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Sub-registration district: St Ann

And I have a list of siblings and ages in the 1851 census.
Mary Clayton: 13
Jane Clayton: 12
Lucasar Clayton: 8
William Clayton: 5
Elizabeth Clayton: 3
James Clayton: 1
Sarah Clayton: 72 (Who I assume is a sister or possible mother)

And then the 1861 census:
Mary A Clayton   24
Jane Clayton   22
William Clayton   16
Elizabeth Clayton   13
James Clayton   12
John Clayton   10
Daniel Clayton   9
Sarah A Clayton   7
Ann Clayton   6
Eliza Clayton   5

How would I go about looking for Henrietta's maiden name or even the marriage certificate? The first search on familysearch is right so far, so I only have 1815 birth of John. Confused  ???

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Re: Looking for grandparents of Elizabeth Clayton
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 09 October 14 04:14 BST (UK) »
Hi you look to have at least one possible sibling missing:-

1841 Census

John Clayton 25 occ Frame Work Knitter
Henrietta 20
Sarah 5
Mary 3
Jane 2
Ann 8 months
Sarah 60
Elizabeth Newton 25
Hannah Newton 8 months
Residing at Lowdham, Southwell, Nottinghamshire
Census Ref HO107/866/ 20/12 /18

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Re: Looking for grandparents of Elizabeth Clayton
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 09 October 14 07:55 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth's birth certificate will give you Henrietta's maiden name.  A possible registration is:

March quarter 1848 - Southwell (which includes Lowdham) 15, page 635.

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Re: Looking for grandparents of Elizabeth Clayton
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 09 October 14 08:29 BST (UK) »
Mary Clayton christened 12th march 1837 - parents John Clayton / Henrietta Witworth ..
fits in with census returns - but it is in Manchester Cathedral  - could this family have moved from Manchester to Nottingham ?
can`t see a place of birth for John Clayton or Henrietta on census ??

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J3Q4-HL8
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Baptism: 12 Mar 1837 Collegiate, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Mary Witworth - Daughter of John Clayton & Henrietta Witworth, Spinster
    Abode: Manchr
    Notes: Reputed father ************
.......................................................................... Reputed Father ??
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NF6B-WFL

so it looks like Henrietta became Mrs Clayton ??...bit confused ...why is she Henrietta Witworth on one record and Henrietta Witworth Clayton on another - can anyone advise me please ?
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Re: Looking for grandparents of Elizabeth Clayton
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 09 October 14 09:23 BST (UK) »
I don`t think that last post of mine is relevant ...
1871 census has
John Clayton b 1815 Gunthorpe ,Notts aged 67
Henrietta Clayton b Lowdham ,Notts aged 73 ...so Henrietta was b 1797 / 98  ?
no Manchester connection ....
www.familysearch.org
Henrietta
baptism
Lowdham ,Notts
1797-1798
closest match is 13 miles away - Newark on Trent ,
Henrietta Summerfield bapt 28th May 1798 -parents Richard Summerfield and Elizabeth
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Re: Looking for grandparents of Elizabeth Clayton
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 09 October 14 09:35 BST (UK) »
Hi Garstonite, Henrietta was 53 eg 1818 in 1871!

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Re: Looking for grandparents of Elizabeth Clayton
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 09 October 14 11:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Garstonite, Henrietta was 53 eg 1818 in 1871!

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thanks keyboard - familysearch states 73 - presumably a mistranscription...
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Re: Looking for grandparents of Elizabeth Clayton
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 09 October 14 11:12 BST (UK) »
possible ?
1818 Henrietta Harrison bapt 6th dec at Sneinton ,Notts - parents Thomas and Sarah
Sneinton is 7 miles from Lowdham by road ...

oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Looking for grandparents of Elizabeth Clayton
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 09 October 14 12:14 BST (UK) »
Hi again, well I still cannot locate the marriage but found this christening:-

Sarah Clayton 20th March 1836 Death 19th March 1848 Lowdham Father John Mother Henryetta

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