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Re: nana's birth mother disappeared in 1901
« Reply #180 on: Thursday 01 February 18 09:58 GMT (UK) »
The freelance journalist at 12 Dynham Road, Natalie (or Natalia) Amelia Abraham, was a US citizen born in St Louis, 25 December 1907. My guess (only a guess) is that she had taken a lease on the house and was letting rooms to female tenants.
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Re: nana's birth mother disappeared in 1901
« Reply #181 on: Thursday 01 February 18 10:22 GMT (UK) »
Good detective work ...
Thanks

Ive messaged Charlottes legitimate grandson to ask if he knew if she owned or leased a house

Other  addresses she lived at sound relatively grand too
1905.  18 sandwell mansion ..sons birth
 18 manchester road
1918 returning from USA  18 manchester rd

 1920s
electoral rolls and probate from josheph Benjamin 1928 was.50a portsdown road
hampstead 
I wonder if he left her that house

 Charlottes final address was actually

12 dynham road  ( sorry, it didnt ring any bells when i found it on register)

she left £2294 in effects to her son


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Re: nana's birth mother disappeared in 1901
« Reply #182 on: Thursday 01 February 18 10:40 GMT (UK) »
After Charlotte’s death, the other women are still residents there which implies that they were living in rented accommodation - rooms/bedsits etc.
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Re: nana's birth mother disappeared in 1901
« Reply #183 on: Thursday 21 June 18 18:57 BST (UK) »
Found
Joseph Benjamin's will/probate in south Africa records Charlotte Benjamin executor

named as neice by marriage

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C91Q-N3B9-T?i=813&cc=2517051

The address at death was given as 188 Belsize road Hampstead London  he didn't leave any immovable property.

Have copied this infor to.link about Benjamin family on South African board
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Re: nana's birth mother disappeared in 1901
« Reply #184 on: Wednesday 27 June 18 07:47 BST (UK) »
This could be a useful link
 
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http://www.lastchancetoread.com/

For the newspaper reports
Ive not used this site  yet has anyone else ?

Haven't ruled out that Charlotte also boarded baby Michael Eric out with a family while she worked

Her husband was in asylum in 1908 but I don't know how long he.d been ill

 Still Really Want to know :

what she and her husband Edwin  H BENjAMIN did and where they lived

Between 1900 when she was Birkenhead
He was south Africa or London

What did they doin missing years before and after Manchester marriage  in 1903

Can anyone find  them on electoral rolls in mManchester between 1899 to 1908?
&/or
In London before going  she and young Eric Michael BENJAMIN went USA between .1903 and 1910

In USA 1914 to 1920

Told by Jewish lady  that she would have had to convert to Judaism in order to marry in synagogue
And the name change from Charlotte to Miriam was also for the marriage certificate but she didn't have to use that first name after
This process of conversion usually took a couple of years

If they knew she,d had a baby before marriage her applicationwould have been refused

So it was inherited interest to keep baby Maisies a secret. From everyone including her fiancee
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Re: nana's birth mother disappeared in 1901
« Reply #185 on: Sunday 08 September 19 10:37 BST (UK) »
I'm still trying to find gaps in my knowledge about great grandmother
Charlotte Lottie Benjamin nee Roberts

Amazing journey of discovery and possibilities so far
The DNA to grandma's birth father all links to Russians from Latvia to descendant s in USA and to her grandmother Caroline GARDNER b1859 Northamptonshire
 but so far can't work out the dna links to any ROBERTS her father John was born BirkenheadCheshire
He came from a family of Welsh Carpenters

No links to her sister Mary.s family .I think the 4  Irvine children died childless
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Re: nana's birth mother disappeared in 1901
« Reply #186 on: Tuesday 28 April 20 18:32 BST (UK) »
Update
Bankruptcy report in London gazette for Edwin Hime BENJAMIN address as 16 Winchester road 1901

This was before his marriage to Charlotte in 1903

I think the address given on Charlotte + Eric's embarcation.return to UK is 18 Winchester Road ( mistranscribed as Manchester Road)

Edwin was hospitalised from July 1908 to Oct 1909 + discharged by order UNCURED  .

Charlotte + Eric were living at 55 Delaware mansions Delaware road in 1911 .it sounds grand.with a domestic servant

But no sign of her sick husband

Can anyone find who was living at 16 + 18 Winchester road London NW 1901 and 1911 please.
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Re: nana's birth mother disappeared in 1901
« Reply #187 on: Tuesday 28 April 20 19:14 BST (UK) »
Electoral registers for 1911 have

no 16  Susan Gomme
Census : https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWLV-54V

no 18 Florence Gertrude Williams
Census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWLV-546
(all her boarders are i think listed separately)




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Re: nana's birth mother disappeared in 1901
« Reply #188 on: Tuesday 28 April 20 19:25 BST (UK) »
1901 - on electoral register at no 18, but in the census at 2 Gladys Road, Hampstead. Appears to hav move

Letitia Ann Marks    48 - b Manchester
Maude S Marks    23 - b Hampstead
Kate Mabel Marks    21 - b Hampstead

RG13;  126;  87;  22

18 Winchester Road is vacant

No 16

    
Susan Pauley    48 - widow, leting apartments, b Swavesey, Cambs
Harry Parrino    67 - boarer, b Gainsborough
Martha Hicken    34 - servant
Jane K Postaus    60 - boarder b London
Margaret E Postaus    36 - boarder b Highgate

RG13;  123;  167;  34

Also, same address, different household

Walter H Keep    41 - director of pictoral stationery b Hamspstead
Helene Keep    45 - b Germany
Fredda Keep    13 - b Islington


I suspect your relatives were sometime boarders in one of these houses