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Baptisms for Totton
« on: Thursday 16 October 14 06:33 BST (UK) »
NOTE:- this links to a census lookup post http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=701236.msg5453785#msg5453785

I cannot trace a record of my great grandfather Harry MOUNT before his marriage in Southwark, Surrey in 1901.  On his army record his birth is shown as 9 July 1873 in Totton.  On his marriage certificate his father is named as Joseph (deceased).  He had a sister around 3 years younger - possibly named Amelia.

With this limited information, is there anyone planning a trip to Hampshire records who could skim baptism entries to see if Harry Mount appears?

FOOTNOTE:- family legend has it that Harry and his father were estranged when Harry fell in love with an unmarried mother, so I am hoping that he did not change his surname as a protest!
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Re: Baptisms for Totton
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 27 September 18 23:39 BST (UK) »
No more information yet - just moving this old query up the list in case someone has any answers or suggestions.

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Re: Baptisms for Totton
« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 September 18 17:56 BST (UK) »
Have you checked his place of birth on the 1911 census?
Middx - VAUS, ROBERTS, EVERSFIELD, INMAN, STAR, HOLBECK, WYATT, BICKFORD, SMITH, REDWOOD
Hants - SMALL, HAMMERTON, GRIST, FRYER, TRODD, DAGWELL, PARKER, WOODFORD, CROUTEAR, BECK, BENDELL, KEEPING, HARDING, BULL
Kent - BAYLY, BORER, MITCHELL, PLANE, VERNON, FARRANCE, CHAPMAN, MEDHURST, LOMAX, WYATT, IDEN
Devon - TOPE, BICKFORD, FOSTER
YKS - QUIRK, McGUIRE, BENN
Nott/Derbs - SLACK
Herts - BARNES
L'pool- PLUMBE
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Re: Baptisms for Totton
« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 September 18 19:14 BST (UK) »
Have you checked his place of birth on the 1911 census?

1911 census gives place of birth as Portsmouth, Hampshire.  Unfortunately, I can't find a matching birth anywhere in Hampshire (there are MOUNTs in Kent and London, but I have disproved any Harry/Henry/Harold born 1870-75)

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Re: Baptisms for Totton
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 21 April 19 01:15 BST (UK) »
Mount does not seem to be a Hampshire surname.  Between 1842 and 1874, only four Mounts were baptised in the county (excluded the Isle of Wight) according to the HGS transcript.  These were four siblings baptised in Portsea in the 1850s, the daughters of a seaman in the Royal Navy.

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Re: Baptisms for Totton
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 21 April 19 09:32 BST (UK) »
Mount does not seem to be a Hampshire surname.  Between 1842 and 1874, only four Mounts were baptised in the county (excluded the Isle of Wight) according to the HGS transcript.  These were four siblings baptised in Portsea in the 1850s, the daughters of a seaman in the Royal Navy.

Many thanks for your reply.  This is one of those brick walls I may not manage to break down.

I have looked at every Harry/Henry/Herbert son of Joseph (with any surname) born in Hampshire on baptisms and censuses but found no obvious candidates.  Family legend states that Harry had a sister Amelia who married Mr Roberts, but I have had no luck with this either.

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Re: Baptisms for Totton
« Reply #6 on: Monday 22 April 19 04:45 BST (UK) »
Have you looked at this man, he is kind of interesting.  If you have access this is a link to his RN record on Ancestry:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01nov/

You can actually read it quite well on the NA without downloading it.

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D6750419

Harry PARKER says he was born 9 Jul 1873 at Sholing, Southampton, however the year was actually 1872.  He deserted in March 1899, and I am not sure if the notes at the bottom of the record are stating that he was recovered at Alexandra in Oct 1899.  I think the Pembroke II was the shore base at Chatham so perhaps it is referring to HMS Alexandra.  Height, eyes and complexion are the same as your man, though hair is fair vs brown.

PARKER, HARRY
Mother's maiden surname: JUDD     
GRO Reference: 1872  S Quarter in SOUTH STONEHAM  Volume 02C  Page 45

His parents were Joseph PARKER and Amelia JUDD and he also had a sister Amelia born in 1865.

I think it would be challenging to locate him to see if he can be eliminated.

Debra  ;D

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Re: Baptisms for Totton
« Reply #7 on: Monday 22 April 19 09:01 BST (UK) »
There was another thread for a census lookup https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?reportsent;topic=701236 which I have closed.

To summarise: all known information on my Harry MOUNT
Born 9 Jul 1873 (Army attestation papers)
Married 25 Aug 1901 in Bemondsey to Annie MONKS (father's name on marriage cert Joseph MOUNT - deceased).
Found on electoral rolls in early 1900s in Southwark
Found on 1911 census (birthplace given as Portsmouth)
Worked as a labourer (ditch digger) in and around Southwark and S.E. London
Served in Royal Engineers 1915 to 1916 - discharged as medically unfit
Died 5 Aug 1917 Southwark
All information on wife and children is known.

Unproved:
father's name Joseph (marriage cert)
Sister Amelia married Mr ROBERTS(?) - possibly four or more children (family legend and photograph)

Not found:
Entry on 1901 census
Official record of birth/baptism
Names of parents.


Debra - I was so excited to read your post and started thinking "well, that will upset my mum - I daren't tell her!" - if I can find no trace of Harry PARKER after the 1901 census (1911 census, service record, death record) and if I can identify a marriage for Amelia PARKER I will be ecstatic!

(Philip wanders off, happily singing: "A searching we will go!" - to the concern of his family and the confusion of the dog)
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Re: Baptisms for Totton
« Reply #8 on: Monday 22 April 19 09:08 BST (UK) »
We need to find the sister Amelia PARKER to see if anything fits with the family story, but I am not having any success.  PARKER is as bad as SMITH.

Debra  :)