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Re: Elizabeth Jennet Thomas c1881 or 1871
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 22 November 18 12:56 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for the information.

I just can not prove who Elizabeth Jennet Thomas is one way or the other.
She is a mystery.

Judy
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Re: Elizabeth Jennet Thomas c1881 or 1871
« Reply #10 on: Friday 23 November 18 03:28 GMT (UK) »
The Elizabeth on the Censuses that were mentioned above ( not only in my post) is Elizabeth "Jannet" Thomas born in 1878, Q1, mother maiden name: William. Jannet and not Jennet... That might be why she is a mistery...

I have seen there are other Elizabeth Jennet Thomas... So you are maybe not on the right track.
Happy to help if I can.

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Re: Elizabeth Jennet Thomas c1881 or 1871
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 24 November 18 12:58 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again for your post. Good to know her mothers surname thank you.

We have been researching her now for a number of years and getting no where so while her name appears to be spelt 'Jennet' then we are researching other spellings too.

It's odd on her marriage entry in 1906 she is recorded as Elizabeth 'Janet' Thomas then she must have signed it  Elizabeth 'Jennet' Thomas but the registrar has crossed it out and inserted Janet and initialled it.

On  two of her children's births  she registered she called herself  'Jennet'. However on the birth that her husband registered he called her 'Bessie Janet'.

It says on her Marriage Certificate that her father was John Thomas, deceased,  Hotel Proprietor.

There have been quite a few irregularities about the family and like many they appear to have been economical with the truth at times.

We can find no death for her either under the name of 'Rees' her married name or 'Thomas' her maiden name. But the last we have any identified address for her it was at 10 Huggin Lane, Canons Street. London in 1917.

So we are researching at all spellings of her name just to make sure.

Any ideas gratefully received.

Judy



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Re: Elizabeth Jennet Thomas c1881 or 1871
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 05 September 19 20:47 BST (UK) »
Through DNA we have now had a link to the family of Elizabeth Jennet Thomas. I have traced them to the family that we have been posting about at The Welsh Harp.

Looks like this is our Elizabeth Jennet Thomas - father John Thomas and mother Ann Williams.

Have just ordered her birth certificate.

Thank you all for your help

Judy
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Re: Elizabeth Jennet Thomas c1881 or 1871
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 08 September 19 22:30 BST (UK) »
It looks like Elizabeth Jennet Thomas b1878 had 2 full sisters however I am unable to find either of them after the 1881 Census.

Sarah A Thomas c1873 born Llanwrytyd Breconshire
Margaret J (orI)  Thomas c1877 born Llanwrytyd Breconshire

in the 1891 Census they are not with their sister Elizabeth & their stepmother Mary at The Welsh Harp.

Any help gratefully received.

Thank you
Judy
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Re: Elizabeth Jennet Thomas c1881 or 1871
« Reply #14 on: Monday 09 September 19 19:31 BST (UK) »
There's a Sarah Ann Thomas aged 18 working as a servant in Cwmdare in 1891 - place of birth is Glan Irfon (Irfon Vallley) which would cover Abergwesyn

Ref Piece 4442, folio 67, p9

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Re: Elizabeth Jennet Thomas c1881 or 1871
« Reply #15 on: Monday 09 September 19 20:10 BST (UK) »
John Thomas, Welsh HArp died 17 Sept 1889 aged 42. Son of Isaac Thomas, formerly of Cymcynach, Abergwesyn (who lives in Hirwaun and is respected by and and a faithful Baptist)/ JT came to Dowlais from Llanwrtyd and Llangamarch about 9 years previously when he was a  tall, fine looking man having spent his early years in agriculture in the Wrtyd lowlands. Then hit by TB

The newspaper article goes on a bit more but doesn't help much on the family

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Re: Elizabeth Jennet Thomas c1881 or 1871
« Reply #16 on: Monday 09 September 19 20:17 BST (UK) »
There's also a snippet in Seren Cymru from August 1884 which mentions the death of the 11 year old son (un-named) of Mr and Mrs Thomas, Welsh Harp, Dowlais and that it was only 3 moths since the burial of his dear sister

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Re: Elizabeth Jennet Thomas c1881 or 1871
« Reply #17 on: Monday 09 September 19 22:18 BST (UK) »
Thank you. That is really good information which despite looking in the newspapers I have missed.
Could you tell me which newspaper site you got the information from please.

Thank you for the Census info too. It may be her. I find the names of the villages in Breconshire around that area are very difficult as they seem to be very close and interlinked.

Appreciate the time taken to help me. :D

Judy

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