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Saccary Family- Nova Scotia
« on: Sunday 26 October 14 15:08 GMT (UK) »
Hello everyone,
I am looking for information about Joseph Adrien Saccary (born about 1915) who lived in Nova Scotia.
I have looked on ancestry and all i have found is a departure list from england to halifax, Canada in 1938 which gave his birth year as 1915. He is not on the 1921 census and he does not have a birth record in Nova scotia births. There is a Jos A Saccary on the voters list in 1953 and also a phone book directory for Joe A Saccary in 1995.
He married in England and had a child there but seemed to go back to Canada.
I would love to know his parents names and even when he died.

Thanks
Pendlelad
LANCASHIRE-Nutter, Driver, Foley, Taylor, Blanthorn, Parker, Pickles, Grime, Mudd, Broadley, Spencer, Whalley, Harrison, Ellis, Timmins, Duerden, Cornthwaite, Schofield, Wardley, Lord, Scholes
IRELAND-Foley, Timmins, Foran, Farrall, Traynor, Crawley, Ganley, McDermott, Manning
HAMPSHIRE-Wheeler, Gilmore
STAFFS/SHROP-Darn, Spittle
DERB'HIRE-Mason, Trimmer
YORKSHIRE-Perkin (Parkin), Robinson
CORNWALL-Harris, Jane, Bennett
CHESHIRE-Littlemore, Timmins, Blanthorn, Smith
HUNTI'SHRE-Stretton, Bryant

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Re: Saccary Family- Nova Scotia
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 26 October 14 21:05 GMT (UK) »
www.novascotiagenealogy.com

You won't find a birth listed as online only goes to 1913 at present with another year added annually.

The surname Saccary is unique to Cape Breton County, Nova Scotia - the Bridgeport/Glace Bay area. Possibly 2 brothers originating in Newfoundland. Hard to know which would be the ancestor of your Joseph. Go through the bmd's at the site above to try to separate the 2 families. The occupation would be coal miner.

You could try the public library in Glace Bay to see if they have anything that may help you.

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Re: Saccary Family- Nova Scotia
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 26 October 14 21:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi there,
Thanks for your help, i will have to wait a couple of years then to be able to view his birth record.
Im afraid i cant visit the library because i live in england, but i have noticed that the Saccary's were very much concentrated in nova scotia. I wonder where they originated before emigrating to Canada?
LANCASHIRE-Nutter, Driver, Foley, Taylor, Blanthorn, Parker, Pickles, Grime, Mudd, Broadley, Spencer, Whalley, Harrison, Ellis, Timmins, Duerden, Cornthwaite, Schofield, Wardley, Lord, Scholes
IRELAND-Foley, Timmins, Foran, Farrall, Traynor, Crawley, Ganley, McDermott, Manning
HAMPSHIRE-Wheeler, Gilmore
STAFFS/SHROP-Darn, Spittle
DERB'HIRE-Mason, Trimmer
YORKSHIRE-Perkin (Parkin), Robinson
CORNWALL-Harris, Jane, Bennett
CHESHIRE-Littlemore, Timmins, Blanthorn, Smith
HUNTI'SHRE-Stretton, Bryant

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Re: Saccary Family- Nova Scotia
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 26 October 14 22:01 GMT (UK) »
It looks as though one of the SACCARY families (head is Moses) are transcribed as SAWRY in 1921 (Glace Bay). There's a 7 yr old son Joseph Ed. Just a maybe.....

Maureen


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Re: Saccary Family- Nova Scotia
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 26 October 14 22:38 GMT (UK) »
He appears on this Nominal Roll list:
Pte Joseph Adrian SACCARY - Glace Bay

https://sites.google.com/site/nominallist/s

If the English marriage certificate (1942?) had his father's name, that would help enormously.

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Re: Saccary Family- Nova Scotia
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 26 October 14 22:45 GMT (UK) »
It looks as though one of the SACCARY families (head is Moses) are transcribed as SAWRY in 1921 (Glace Bay). There's a 7 yr old son Joseph Ed. Just a maybe.....

Maureen

Maureen,
That looks like a good possibility, i have just had a look at it and yes the transcription is wrong.
I was thinking that his father might be called moses before, but there seems to be two moses saccary's about. One with Christina as his wife and the other with Catherine.
Thanks,
Pendlelad
LANCASHIRE-Nutter, Driver, Foley, Taylor, Blanthorn, Parker, Pickles, Grime, Mudd, Broadley, Spencer, Whalley, Harrison, Ellis, Timmins, Duerden, Cornthwaite, Schofield, Wardley, Lord, Scholes
IRELAND-Foley, Timmins, Foran, Farrall, Traynor, Crawley, Ganley, McDermott, Manning
HAMPSHIRE-Wheeler, Gilmore
STAFFS/SHROP-Darn, Spittle
DERB'HIRE-Mason, Trimmer
YORKSHIRE-Perkin (Parkin), Robinson
CORNWALL-Harris, Jane, Bennett
CHESHIRE-Littlemore, Timmins, Blanthorn, Smith
HUNTI'SHRE-Stretton, Bryant

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Re: Saccary Family- Nova Scotia
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 26 October 14 22:53 GMT (UK) »
He appears on this Nominal Roll list:
Pte Joseph Adrian SACCARY - Glace Bay

https://sites.google.com/site/nominallist/s

If the English marriage certificate (1942?) had his father's name, that would help enormously.

Cheers
AMBLY
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AMBLY,
Thanks for the info, it seems he might have been in all three militaria during the war, this list calls him a private in the army. The departure list from england to canada in 1938 lists him as a seaman, and a list mentioning his wife and child, gives his reg.number and that he is in the royal canadian air force.
Pendlelad
LANCASHIRE-Nutter, Driver, Foley, Taylor, Blanthorn, Parker, Pickles, Grime, Mudd, Broadley, Spencer, Whalley, Harrison, Ellis, Timmins, Duerden, Cornthwaite, Schofield, Wardley, Lord, Scholes
IRELAND-Foley, Timmins, Foran, Farrall, Traynor, Crawley, Ganley, McDermott, Manning
HAMPSHIRE-Wheeler, Gilmore
STAFFS/SHROP-Darn, Spittle
DERB'HIRE-Mason, Trimmer
YORKSHIRE-Perkin (Parkin), Robinson
CORNWALL-Harris, Jane, Bennett
CHESHIRE-Littlemore, Timmins, Blanthorn, Smith
HUNTI'SHRE-Stretton, Bryant

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Re: Saccary Family- Nova Scotia
« Reply #7 on: Monday 27 October 14 07:43 GMT (UK) »
http://automatedgenealogy.com

breakdown of families
1901 Nova Scotia/Bridgeport
Sachery, John, head
             Alice, wife
             Moses, son b. June 9, 1882
immigrated 1885, all born Newfoundland

Sacery, Joseph, head, b. 1864
            Margaret, wife
            Frances
            John J
            Alice
Wiseman, Catherine, mother in law
immigrated 1890

Sacary, Abraham, head, b. 1871
            Catherine
            Sarah M
            John W
            Joseph

1911 Census, Nova Scotia, Cape Breton South, Glace Bay

Saccrey, Joseph, immigrated 1890
             Margret
             Francis
             John
             Charles
             Maggie
page 7
Sacery, Abraham
            Catherine
            Sarah
            John
            Joseph
            ?
            Mary A
            Leopold
page 8
Sacery, Beatrice
Sacery, John, father, age 79

From the above census info, I would take a guess that the 2 brothers that came to Nova Scotia from Harbour Grace, Newfoundland are John and Joseph. I couldn't find Moses in any 1911 census but he could be badly transcribed. I would also suggest that Moses and Abraham are possibly brothers.


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Re: Saccary Family- Nova Scotia
« Reply #8 on: Monday 27 October 14 07:52 GMT (UK) »
It appears from some of the records that I looked at that the church in Bridgeport that was used at some point was Immaculate Conception Church. Bridgeport is now part of Glace Bay which is part of Cape Breton Regional Municipality.

Cape Breton Regional Library
www.cbrl.ca
They may be able to tell you what is available for genealogy research in Cape Breton.

If you go to Library and Archives Canada under Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918

There are Attestation Papers for 3 of the Saccary's.

The Attestation Papers for Moses Saccary show that he was born Harbour Grace Newfoundland on June 9, 1883 (out one year from the census info) It also states his wife as Catherine.

At the Historical Vital Statistics site
www.novascotiagenealogy.com

there is a death for Catherine Saccary (lost my piece of paper) I think in 1942 which states her maiden name was McKinnon