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Re: Holland Family Tree.
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 28 October 14 14:17 GMT (UK) »
Thats also another possibility I guess, one which messes with my mind further.  ???

I'm only going on the fairground traveller link as its an old family story that Maud (Alberts Daughter) and possibly had foreign gypsy roots or something to do with the holland's which were involved in fairgrounds.

In photos she is very dark skinned she almost looks like a little old Romanian Fortune Teller.


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Re: Holland Family Tree.
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 28 October 14 19:50 GMT (UK) »
from the Leics Travellers index:

HOLLAND, Albert   Moses & Ambretta   baptised   4 February 1855   Orton on the Hill   


other Hollands there too:

http://www.leics.gov.uk/index/leisure_tourism/local_history/recordoffice/recordoffice_exhibitions/record_office_gypsy_roma_traveller/gypsies_roma_travellers_project-2.htm   

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Re: Holland Family Tree.
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 28 October 14 20:11 GMT (UK) »
And do you think Jones is

England and Wales, Birth Registration Index
Name:    Jonas Holland
Event Type:    Birth Registration
Registration Quarter:    Jan-Feb-Mar 1846   
Atherstone Warwickshire
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Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Holland Family Tree.
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 28 October 14 20:33 GMT (UK) »
Albert  and Sarah

1881 RG11/3061/13/20
4, Bull Head Gas Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, England
Albert    Holland    Head    Married    Male    27    1854    Coal Miner    Leicestershire Orton on the Hill
Sarah    Holland    Wife    Married    Female    27    1854    Worsted Weaver    Warwickshire...all Stockingford
William S    Holland    Son    Single    Male    3    1878    Scholar    Warwickshire   
John    Holland    Son    Single    Male    1    1880    -    Warwickshire
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Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Holland Family Tree.
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 28 October 14 20:36 GMT (UK) »
From gypsyjib website (more Hollands in link)


http://www.gypsyjib.com/m/page/Holland+Family


1871 Census Ratcliffe Atherstone Leciestershire
Moses Holland .....53 b 1818 Leciestershire Brazier
Ambretta ..........49 b 1822 Northamptonshire
Cornelius .........18 b 1853 Leciestershire Brazier
Aaron .............14 b 1858 Staffordshire
John ..............11 b 1860 Leciestershire
George .............9 b 1862 Staffordshire
Benjamin ...........4 b 1867 Leciestershire

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Re: Holland Family Tree.
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 28 October 14 21:24 GMT (UK) »
So that family fits with the 1861 one that was found by Diddymiller , with Albert fitting in between Cornelius and Aaron.
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DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Holland Family Tree.
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 28 October 14 21:36 GMT (UK) »
Aaron Baptism

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JWH3-PR3

Sorry had this hanging whilst I was searching
Willsy

Ward, Newark (Nottingham), Leicester, Scarborough
Warren, Northampton, Leicester
Moore, Leicestershire
Hunt, Leicestershire
Kirkman, Leicestershire
Hurst, Leicester, Stowmarket
Kendrick, Leicestershire
Eld, Leicestershire
Essex Edey/Eady Elsden/Elsdon

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Re: Holland Family Tree.
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 28 October 14 21:47 GMT (UK) »
So that family fits with the 1861 one that was found by Diddymiller , with Albert fitting in between Cornelius and Aaron.

Yes. Bit more info for that 1861 census (from link I posted above)

1861 Census Orton on the Hill Leciestershire * In Tents*
Jas Boswell.........39 b 1822 NK
Phillis.............44 b 1817 Somerset
Jno.................10 b 1851 Bolton
M Holland...........40 b 1821 Barnwell * Moses*
E Holland...........35 b 1826 NK
Eliza...............19 b 1842 Warsall
Jones...............15 b 1846 Atherstone
Cornelius............8 b 1853 Bancote
Albert...............6 b 1855 Orton Leciestershire
Aaron................4 b 1857 Litchfield
Jno..................1 b 1860 Orton Leciestershire

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Re: Holland Family Tree.
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 28 October 14 21:53 GMT (UK) »
Thats also another possibility I guess, one which messes with my mind further.  ???

I'm only going on the fairground traveller link as its an old family story that Maud (Alberts Daughter) and possibly had foreign gypsy roots or something to do with the holland's which were involved in fairgrounds.

In photos she is very dark skinned she almost looks like a little old Romanian Fortune Teller.

Looks like the family are English Romany Gypsies
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people