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Allen family of Danesmoor / Hickling / Edmondthorpe
« on: Wednesday 29 October 14 07:52 GMT (UK) »
I have traced my grandfather's line from Danesmoor near Chesterfield back through to Hickling in Nottinghamshire and to a William Allen born in Edmondthorpe, Leicestershire in or around 1737.  My research indicates that he married Elizabeth Hidson in 1758 and that they had five children, one of which is my ancestor.  I have, however, been unable to trace the lineage back any further.  Does anyone have any further information regarding either William or Elizabeth?

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Re: Allen family of Danesmoor / Hickling / Edmondthorpe
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 29 October 14 11:32 GMT (UK) »
Hello & welcome
Can you flesh it out a bit.
How do you know he was born around 1737 Endmondthorpe ?
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
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Re: Allen family of Danesmoor / Hickling / Edmondthorpe
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 30 October 14 11:24 GMT (UK) »
The 1851 census for Thomas Allen states that he was aged 74 years and born in Edmondthorpe.  An earlier posting on Derbyshire look up requests re Allen / Exton on RootsChat identified his parents as William Allen and Elizabeth Hidson and that they married in Edmondthorpe in 1758.  A search of the Public Member Trees on Ancestry confirms the same and that William was born in 1737.

My great-frandfather was John Allen (born Hickling, Notts 1864 who married Ruth Exton).  He was the son of William Allen (born Hickling, Notts 1819) whose father was the Thomas Allen above (born Edmondthorpe, Leics 1776).

Does that clarify?

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Re: Allen family of Danesmoor / Hickling / Edmondthorpe
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 30 October 14 11:42 GMT (UK) »
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A search of the Public Member Trees on Ancestry confirms the same and that William was born in 1737.
You have to be wary of public member trees unless there's qualifying information.
The owner may just have assumed he was from there because that's where he married.
He's most likely to be from the County so I would broaden your search & see what comes up.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
Census information is Crown copyright,from
www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/


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Re: Allen family of Danesmoor / Hickling / Edmondthorpe
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 01 November 14 07:43 GMT (UK) »
FreeReg only has one William born about that time, but there's no way of knowing if it's the right man:

Place   Leicester
Church   St Mary   
BaptismDate   06 Jul 1735
Forename   William
Sex   M
FatherForename   John
FatherSurname   ALLEN

The parish of Edmondthorpe doesn't appear to have been transcribed yet so it's very possible there may be other candidates.
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Re: Allen family of Danesmoor / Hickling / Edmondthorpe
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 02 November 14 16:38 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks and understood.  The name John does, however, appear through successive generations of Allens ending with my grandfather.