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Bird family : Odcombe
« on: Friday 31 October 14 15:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
The following is from the 1851 census -
1851 : Higher Odcombe, Somerset
Henry Bird head M 39 Cord Winder Odcombe
Ann wife 49 Glover Kingstone
George Hutchings apprentice 19 Cord Winder Kingstone
(I believe Cord Winder should read Cordwainer)

George was my gggrandfather.
I would like to know more about this family as I believe there may have been a family connection. My grandmother's name was Winifred Bird, who married a William Hutchings).

Anything anyone can find would be appreciated.
Ellison/Rogers/Pilkington/Wood(s)Moss/Mawdsley/Keegin (Keegan,Keagan,Keegen)
Orange/Morrisroe/Webster/Hoole/Shaw/Hague/Herbert
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Re: Bird family : Odcombe
« Reply #1 on: Friday 31 October 14 15:27 GMT (UK) »
This is same family in 1841 although seem to be recorded as Burt 
HO107 Piece 946 Book 13 Folio 6 Page 4

Henry Burt Male 30 1811 Somerset, England Shoe Maker
Ann Burt Female 40 1801 Somerset, England

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Austin/Austen - Sussex & London
Bond - Berkshire & London
Bishop - Sussex & Kent
Holland - Essex
Nevitt - Cheshire & Staffordshire
Wray - Yorkshire

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Re: Bird family : Odcombe
« Reply #2 on: Friday 31 October 14 15:41 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for that.

Any chance you could find them in later censuses. I am particularly keen to see if there is a Mary Bird anywhere, as I have found a baptism for my grandmother (Winifred Bird) which gives her mother's name as Mary. No father.

Ellison/Rogers/Pilkington/Wood(s)Moss/Mawdsley/Keegin (Keegan,Keagan,Keegen)
Orange/Morrisroe/Webster/Hoole/Shaw/Hague/Herbert
Hurt/Turner/Dean

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Re: Bird family : Odcombe
« Reply #3 on: Friday 31 October 14 15:54 GMT (UK) »
1861 - still living odcombe but Ann has obviously died

Henry Bird Head Widower Male 51 1810 Shoe Maker Odcombe, Somerset, England 
 
Elizabeth Bird Daughter Unmarried Female 19 1842 Shoe Binder Odcombe, Somerset, England

Jane Bird Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Odcombe, Somerset, England

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Austin/Austen - Sussex & London
Bond - Berkshire & London
Bishop - Sussex & Kent
Holland - Essex
Nevitt - Cheshire & Staffordshire
Wray - Yorkshire


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Re: Bird family : Odcombe
« Reply #4 on: Friday 31 October 14 16:08 GMT (UK) »
Your grandparents marriage:

March qtr 1922
Frome district     vol 5c, page 675

Bird, Winifred
Hutchings, William


So, is this her birth?
March qtr 1896
Frome district     vol 5c, page 424

Bird, Winifred


Leaping back to 1851, without any information in between, is a heck of a jump?!
You would be better going back a step at a time? ;D
Hutchings, William H
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Bird family : Odcombe
« Reply #5 on: Friday 31 October 14 16:29 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I have the marriage entry for 1922.

The baptism I have for Winifred is for 29/01/1896 at Holy trinity, Frome.

I know that in 1901 census both Wm. and Winifred were in the household of Elizabeth Brown in Frome. Both are listed as 'visitor', but I have discovered that Eliz. Brown was Wm's grandmother.

I have traced the Hutchings family, but am stuck with the Birds.
I would appreciate any suggestions.
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Re: Bird family : Odcombe
« Reply #6 on: Friday 31 October 14 16:43 GMT (UK) »
You can also find Winnie (as she is known!) in the house of Elizabeth Brown on the 1911 census. ;D

I suspect that Mary Bird was not from Frome?
I have looked at all the Bird's connected with Frome, on the 1891 census, and cannot see a Mary of the right age?
(Only 2 Mary's aged 50 or so!!)
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Bird family : Odcombe
« Reply #7 on: Friday 31 October 14 16:56 GMT (UK) »
Have you located Winifreds mother.


This one could fit from freereg

Frome -St John the Baptist Pr
BaptismDate   30 Jun 1872
Forename   Mary
Father   John Bird
Mother   Tabor
Abode   Vallis

She is with parents in Frome 1881 and a servant in Clapham in 1891

1881
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X3Y9-FV9

1891
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QSC5-C3Z
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Re: Bird family : Odcombe
« Reply #8 on: Friday 31 October 14 17:24 GMT (UK) »
1901 that Mary is a servant to the Vokes family in Bath, giving her lpace of birth as Egford, Frome