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Foundlings
« on: Saturday 01 November 14 05:59 GMT (UK) »
Looking for info on christening, admission apprenticeship records for My 4th GGrandfather who was a foundling in London born 1752- 1764 any help appreciated

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Re: Foundlings
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 01 November 14 08:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi pyeepyee

Welcome to Rootschat  ;D

Can you tell us his name?

Was he in the care of Thomas Coram's Foundling Hospital?

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Re: Foundlings
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 01 November 14 09:21 GMT (UK) »
I reside in Australia. his name is William Hibberd/ Hibbet Hubbard spelt many ways. He arrived in Sydney as a Convict 1801, he was a saddler & Harness maker in U/k & residing near Fulham St in 1798. His daughter in Sydney nsw wrote abut her pioneers days in nsw she states  her Father was adopted by The Duke of York & christened publicly in a London Square. That is all I have to go on so I thought he may have been a Foundling, he has different dates on references from 1756 -1762 more like 1758-59 any help will be graeful
Hi pyeepyee

Welcome to Rootschat  ;D

Can you tell us his name?

Was he in the care of Thomas Coram's Foundling Hospital?

Dawn

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Re: Foundlings
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 01 November 14 11:17 GMT (UK) »
I cannot see a convict by that name arriving in 1801 - is he the man who arrived on the Royal Admiral in 1800, tried at the Old Bailey in Jan 1798?

http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=t17980110-36-defend366&div=t17980110-36

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Re: Foundlings
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 01 November 14 11:19 GMT (UK) »
One of my ancestor's was baptised in the London Foundling Hospital in 1757.

I contacted the London Metropolitan Archives.

http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/things-to-do/visiting-the-city/archives-and-city-history/london-metropolitan-archives/about-lma/Pages/enquiries.aspx

They were VERY helpful. It cost me 50.00 (in 2011) -- but in return I received copies of all the information they had viz

The date of admission
What he was dressed in.
Whether the mother left a token
The name of the man who gave him a name (they are all renamed, even if they had a name already).
Where and when he was sent to be 'nursed'
Where and when he was sent to be apprenticed and in what occupation

(My foundling was actually sent to Ackworth - an offshoot of the London Foundling Hospital, which is in Yorkshire. Only the healthiest children were sent to the offshoot locations - there were others around the country --- as the journeys were long and would be quite arduous for 5 or 6 year olds --- my ancestor was only 6 when he was despatched to be apprenticed).

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Re: Foundlings
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 01 November 14 11:39 GMT (UK) »
I see that in the criminal register for his committal on 15 Dec 1797 William is described as follows:

Hibbard Willm

Age 36, 5ft 7in, brown hair, grey eyes, Walton on Thames, a master harness maker.


So he does not appear to have been resident in Fulham, though I see that is where the offences took place.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Foundlings
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 01 November 14 11:49 GMT (UK) »
The place names on convict records are usually their native place.  As far as I can see the church registers for Walton on Thames exist from 1639.

https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/284792?availability=Family%20History%20Library

They are indexed on FamilySearch:

https://familysearch.org/search

Debra  :)

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Re: Foundlings
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 01 November 14 11:54 GMT (UK) »
The place names on convict records are usually their native place. 

Ah.  Didn't know that.  Even better :)
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Foundlings
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 02 November 14 02:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi All, Yes William Hibbert/ Hibberd was tried at the Old Baileys Jan 1798 arrived Sydney Nov 1800 on The Royal Admiral.Thank you all, I have something to go by now And i love the description of him, i have now a picture of him in my head so thanks again for all your help