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Re: change of surname -- why?
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 04 November 14 12:33 GMT (UK) »
William married at Biggin on 22 Jan 1849 and named Thomas Greaves as his father.

The Greaves household at Biggin in 1841 was as listed at reply #14.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: change of surname -- why?
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 04 November 14 12:35 GMT (UK) »
Ah, thank you.

Found the 1841 Census now.
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: change of surname -- why?
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 04 November 14 12:37 GMT (UK) »
A newspaper announcement of the marriage:

Derby Mercury, 31 January 1849

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On 22nd instant, at St Thomas', Biggin, Hartington, by the Rev. Thomas Booth, LL.D., Mr William Greaves, of Biggin, to Miss Mary Newham, of the "Dean of Hartington Arms", Newhaven.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: change of surname -- why?
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 04 November 14 12:46 GMT (UK) »
Yes indeed. In 1841 William was living with Thomas Greaves in Biggin, Hartington, and was a cowkeeper -- other persons (as noted above) were Isaac, Hannah and Sarah Greaves -- who I now must presume were half-siblings. An interesting suggestion above that Thomas may have been married to someone else, although I haven't so far located a marriage.
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Re: change of surname -- why?
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 04 November 14 12:57 GMT (UK) »
other persons (as noted above) were Isaac, Hannah and Sarah Greaves -- who I now must presume were half-siblings.

I wouldn't presume that; we just don't know how they were related to one another and to Thomas.  For example Hannah was born out of county - she may be Isaac's wife.  I see that an Isaac Greaves married in Ashbourne district in 1840 - one of the other names on the page was Hannah Chatterton.

On the other hand we see Isaac Greaves bc 1819 Biggin with a wife Margaret from 1851 onwards - and one of the 1840 brides was Margaret Holmes, so more work is required to sort out whom he married and when.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: change of surname -- why?
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 04 November 14 13:39 GMT (UK) »
Argh! You are absolutely right!
Condick; Bull (Herefordshire only); Layard; Wilmot; Southgate; Fowlie (Singapore branch); Usher (Dundrum); Kelley (Lancashire);