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Re: change of surname -- why?
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 04 November 14 12:05 GMT (UK) »
I agree that William Greaves Hurd was the Son of Sarah Hurd.
I think she was Widowed though.

BENJAMIN Hurd Married Sarah CARPMEAL, 18 November 1812, All Saints, Derby, Derbyshire
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Benjamim HURD, Servant, age 29 (birth c 1790) was Buried same Church, 28 Feb 1819.
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Re: change of surname -- why?
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 04 November 14 12:10 GMT (UK) »
Yes I was just looking at Benjamin & Sarah too.

Possible children of theirs:

Ann, 1816: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KBDJ-SLC

James, 1819:  https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KBDJ-9F9
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
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Re: change of surname -- why?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 04 November 14 12:12 GMT (UK) »
Benjamin/Sarah Baptised same Church;
ANN, 12 Jan 1816
DAINES (male), 21 May 1819
JAMES, 21 May 1819
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Remember these are Baptism dates not birth dates so Daines/James are likely not twins
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Re: change of surname -- why?
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 04 November 14 12:15 GMT (UK) »
Daines I would have thought is likely to be a mistranscription of James.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: change of surname -- why?
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 04 November 14 12:16 GMT (UK) »
Thank you guys! Sarah went on to have a fairly tough life, it would appear. In 1841 and 1851 she is a seamstress living in central Derby but in 1861 (aged 70) she was a charwoman. She only had a daughter Mary living with her (factory silk worker). As far as I can see William went to live with his father. I wonder what happened to the other (Hurd) children?
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Re: change of surname -- why?
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 04 November 14 12:20 GMT (UK) »
I wonder whether Thomas was married to someone else when William was conceived?

As you know, we see Thomas aged 60 in 1841 as an innkeeper & farmer at Biggin with an assortment of young Greaves, but we don't know what his relationship was to each of them.

Isaac 21 born in county (Derbyshire)
Hannah 19 not born in county
William 19 born in county
Sarah 18 born in county
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: change of surname -- why?
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 04 November 14 12:20 GMT (UK) »
My ancestors changed their names so it made it impossible to trace them any further back than about 1801.  My husband changed his name to his step-fathers name after his Mum and Dad got divorced, so I have been doing his family history so that the children and grandchildren will know what the correct name will be if they decided to do any research.  Otherwise they will be researching down the wrong tree.

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Re: change of surname -- why?
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 04 November 14 12:26 GMT (UK) »
You are probably right.

Quote *Daines I would have thought is likely to be a mistranscription of James*.

I never though of that :-[
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« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 04 November 14 12:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi queenscorgi,

I am a bit confused here;

Quote;
Sarah went on to ....
As far as I can see William went to live with his father.

Bit confused as to waht you mean by living with his Father?
Do you have William Greaves Hurd on the 1841 Census with someone you think is his Father?
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