Trevor Davidson Southgate and the Southgate family

[queencorgi1]

OK, this is my second new topic but I only joined about 2 hours ago, and I just don't know where this topic would fit. Trevor Davidson Southgate (TDS) does appear on some family trees on Ancestry (ie, was Mundia) but I have messaged the owners and they know less about him than I do. His father Trevor Bishop Southgate (TBS) married his first cousin Sophie Southgate. I have quite a bit of information about the Southgate family at this date but would love more. TBS went to Brazil to work where Sophie died. TDS was in the Essex Regiment, the Machine Gun Corps and the Royal Flying Corps during WW1, and subsequently worked for the United Africa Company. I have no information on him from 1933 until his death in 1963. I do have information on his two marriages but some aspects of this might be sensitive to living persons so I won't include it here. Any Southgate family members?

[avm228]

Hi again - I am not a Southgate (nor connected in any way) but there is electoral roll info for TDS and his second wife in Harrow/Pinner in the 1940s and 1950s.  I see that his residence had moved to Eastbourne by the end of his life.  What sort of info, specifically, are you after?

[queencorgi1]

Hello again!
I would like to know what he was doing between 1933 and 1963 -- I mean what work.
I would also like to know more about the Southgate family. If I could find photographs that would be brilliant.
There are as indicated issues around his first marriage which I would like to know more about.

Thank you for your interest, and of course for your help earlier today!

[avm228]

There are as indicated issues around his first marriage which I would like to know more about.

Have you already seen this?

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C8034904

[lizdb]

Did anything happen in the family during those dates whereby a record may remain? I mean - did he marry, have a child, for example? If so, you can see what occupation he gave on the certificate.

Otherwise, if he was just tootling along in life with no major milestones happening, then there may not be any record which records his job for you to find.

I see he left a Will - if was still working when he wrote it than maybe that mentions his occupation?

[queencorgi1]

Yes, I have read the divorce papers and that's where the issues emerged!
TDS's first wife (the divorced one) later became a novelist under the name Jane England: her first four novels are heavily autobiographical and really have it in for her ex-husband. Fascinating stuff. I think he was quite a difficult man to live with -- not violent. just withdrawn and morose.

He was a retired golf club secretary at the time of his death -- I haven't yet been able to trace the golf club. I traced the family of the man to whom probate was granted (not a relative) and they were quite spooked and knew nothing about it. I haven't actually seen his will, have you found a link?

[avm228]

He was a retired golf club secretary at the time of his death -- I haven't yet been able to trace the golf club.

Possibly Pinner Hill Golf Club - his address in the 1956 electoral roll?

[avm228]

The will itself can't be viewed online - you would need to order it using the probate details which it seems you've already found.

[queencorgi1]

Whoa, avm 228, you definitely deserve that Marquesate!!

This is going to sound a bit dumb, but how do you actually apply for will details? I haven't done it before. If it's stupidly easy/there's endless online guides just send me a link and don't bother typing it all out.