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1841/51/61 lookups, please: Charles, Thomas, & John Groome
« on: Saturday 02 July 05 04:01 BST (UK) »
Hello again:
   For this branch of our family from Steyning, I have four generations of one child per generation.  By the 1841/51/61 censuses, I hope to fill a few of those generations out a bit.  Could someone help me try to find the following Groome family members, please?
- John Groome, born c.1826 at Steyning; wife, Eliza; probably continued to reside at Steyning, as he was found there in the 1881 census.
- Charles Groome, born c.1800; probably resident at Steyning, but possibly at Broadwater or Sompting.
- Thomas Groome, born c.1785??; probably resident at Steyning, but possibly at Broadwater or Sompting.
Many thanks in advance, for considering my lookup request,
Alison Causton
Annapolis Valley, Nova Scotia
London/Croydon: Causton. Steyning, Coombes & Piddinghoe, Sussex: Lamport. Bournemouth/Croydon: Dunford. Bristol/Croydon: Wawman, Hurford. Long Crichel, Dorset: Loader. Wivelsfield, Sussex: Miles. Kilrea, Co L'Derry: Kilpatrick, M'Kay. Caledon & Dungannon, Co Tyrone: Huggins, Kennedy, Thompson. Co Kerry: Burke. Corbrackey, Co Armagh: Flavell, Jones. DruminallyDuff, Co Armagh: Gilmore.

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Re: 1841/51/61 lookups, please: Charles, Thomas, & John Groome
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 02 July 05 04:48 BST (UK) »
1861 Census

John Groom, head, mar, 30, guard to ballast train, Steyning Susswx
Eliza, wife, 24, Steyning Sussex
Harry, son, 4, Upper beeding Sussex
Maria, dau, 2, Upper beeding Sussex

RG9/606
District: Steyning
Schedule: 9
Folio:57
Page: 3
Fisher, Pitts, Lucas, Emmit, Keal, Bennett, Maddock, Jackson, Pidd, Lincolnshire <br />Bullock, Read, White, Gloucestershire.<br />Shepherd, Foyle, Crowter, Green, Wiltshire<br />Strickland, Fisher, Butterworth, Brown, Northhamptonshire<br />Shepherd, Bullock, Waterhouse, Lancashire
Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland
<br /><br /><br /> Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: 1841/51/61 lookups, please: Charles, Thomas, & John Groome
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 02 July 05 04:56 BST (UK) »

Charles Groom, head, mar, 61, tailor & bind (?) preparer, Upper Beeding Sussex
Charlott, wife, 64, Upper Beeding Sussex

RG9/606
District: Steyning
Schedule: 53
Folio:61
Page; 12

Darcy
Fisher, Pitts, Lucas, Emmit, Keal, Bennett, Maddock, Jackson, Pidd, Lincolnshire <br />Bullock, Read, White, Gloucestershire.<br />Shepherd, Foyle, Crowter, Green, Wiltshire<br />Strickland, Fisher, Butterworth, Brown, Northhamptonshire<br />Shepherd, Bullock, Waterhouse, Lancashire
Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland
<br /><br /><br /> Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


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Re: 1841/51/61 lookups, please: Charles, Thomas, & John Groome
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 02 July 05 05:17 BST (UK) »
Hello, Darcy:
   Thank you very much for these extracts ... answers a couple of mysteries, including the name of Charles' wife :)
   Does the "RG9" reference indicate that these came from the 1861 census?
Regards,
Alison
London/Croydon: Causton. Steyning, Coombes & Piddinghoe, Sussex: Lamport. Bournemouth/Croydon: Dunford. Bristol/Croydon: Wawman, Hurford. Long Crichel, Dorset: Loader. Wivelsfield, Sussex: Miles. Kilrea, Co L'Derry: Kilpatrick, M'Kay. Caledon & Dungannon, Co Tyrone: Huggins, Kennedy, Thompson. Co Kerry: Burke. Corbrackey, Co Armagh: Flavell, Jones. DruminallyDuff, Co Armagh: Gilmore.

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Re: 1841/51/61 lookups, please: Charles, Thomas, & John Groome
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 02 July 05 05:24 BST (UK) »
Oh sorry ... I just noticed that you very clearly indicated that these were 1861 census items ::).
Thanks again, Darcy.
Cheers,
Alison
London/Croydon: Causton. Steyning, Coombes & Piddinghoe, Sussex: Lamport. Bournemouth/Croydon: Dunford. Bristol/Croydon: Wawman, Hurford. Long Crichel, Dorset: Loader. Wivelsfield, Sussex: Miles. Kilrea, Co L'Derry: Kilpatrick, M'Kay. Caledon & Dungannon, Co Tyrone: Huggins, Kennedy, Thompson. Co Kerry: Burke. Corbrackey, Co Armagh: Flavell, Jones. DruminallyDuff, Co Armagh: Gilmore.

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Re: 1841/51/61 lookups, please: Charles, Thomas, & John Groome
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 02 July 05 05:26 BST (UK) »
Hi Allison,  :)

yes, I was a bit late indicating which census it was. ;D

I have had no luck in finding Thomas born c1785 but there might be a connection here -

Thomas Groom, head, mar, 53, Ag Lab, Steyning Sussex
Hannah, wife, 57, Clapham
Thomas, son, 18, Ag Lab, SteyningSussex
Mary Bishep, visitor, 14, scholar, Patching Sussex

RG9/606
District: Steyning
Schedule:21
Folio:43
Page:5

Darcy
Fisher, Pitts, Lucas, Emmit, Keal, Bennett, Maddock, Jackson, Pidd, Lincolnshire <br />Bullock, Read, White, Gloucestershire.<br />Shepherd, Foyle, Crowter, Green, Wiltshire<br />Strickland, Fisher, Butterworth, Brown, Northhamptonshire<br />Shepherd, Bullock, Waterhouse, Lancashire
Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland
<br /><br /><br /> Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: 1841/51/61 lookups, please: Charles, Thomas, & John Groome
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 02 July 05 06:00 BST (UK) »
Hello again, Darcy:
I'm inclined to believe that this is a related connection, but I will have to order in the parish register films for Upper Beeding and for Steyning to sort these Groomes out.
Thank you for this additional lead :),
Alison
London/Croydon: Causton. Steyning, Coombes & Piddinghoe, Sussex: Lamport. Bournemouth/Croydon: Dunford. Bristol/Croydon: Wawman, Hurford. Long Crichel, Dorset: Loader. Wivelsfield, Sussex: Miles. Kilrea, Co L'Derry: Kilpatrick, M'Kay. Caledon & Dungannon, Co Tyrone: Huggins, Kennedy, Thompson. Co Kerry: Burke. Corbrackey, Co Armagh: Flavell, Jones. DruminallyDuff, Co Armagh: Gilmore.

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Re: 1841/51/61 lookups, please: Charles, Thomas, & John Groome
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 02 July 05 06:29 BST (UK) »
Alison,

I had a look at FreeBMD. There is a death for a Thomas Groome in Worthing Sussex.

                       Dec Quarter 1857 -  Volume 2b  Page 164.

Worthing seems to be the Somping/Broadwater area where you thought Thomas might be.

Could explain why I haven't found him in 1861.

Darcy
Fisher, Pitts, Lucas, Emmit, Keal, Bennett, Maddock, Jackson, Pidd, Lincolnshire <br />Bullock, Read, White, Gloucestershire.<br />Shepherd, Foyle, Crowter, Green, Wiltshire<br />Strickland, Fisher, Butterworth, Brown, Northhamptonshire<br />Shepherd, Bullock, Waterhouse, Lancashire
Fisher, Goodwin, Rutland
<br /><br /><br /> Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: 1841/51/61 lookups, please: Charles, Thomas, & John Groome
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 02 July 05 06:42 BST (UK) »
Hi, Darcy -
We know that Thomas was at Broadwater, and this death date fits with an extract from an extract from “A History of Sussex”, Vol VI, Part 1, edited by T.P. Hudson and pub. 1980.  This publication has been digitised and posted to a web site called “British History Online” at http://british.history.ac.uk/.
I'll have to add the Broadwater parish registers to my "to do" list :D.
Thanks for pointing this out, Darcy.
Regards,
Alison (who should really be toddling off to bed...)
London/Croydon: Causton. Steyning, Coombes & Piddinghoe, Sussex: Lamport. Bournemouth/Croydon: Dunford. Bristol/Croydon: Wawman, Hurford. Long Crichel, Dorset: Loader. Wivelsfield, Sussex: Miles. Kilrea, Co L'Derry: Kilpatrick, M'Kay. Caledon & Dungannon, Co Tyrone: Huggins, Kennedy, Thompson. Co Kerry: Burke. Corbrackey, Co Armagh: Flavell, Jones. DruminallyDuff, Co Armagh: Gilmore.