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Phyllis Constance Harris
« on: Wednesday 12 November 14 16:28 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for information on Phyllis Constance Harris.  Believed to be born 1890 Chichester and died there in 1970.  I do not have ancestry subs but think she is on 1911 census and hoping she is on 1891 and 1901.

In 1932 she was left a substantial amount of money by an ancestor of mine who sadly died aged  33.  They appeared to be sharing the same address. I have the full address but didn't know if I should put it here.  Just wondering who she was and what the connection was. 
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Re: Phyllis Constance Harris
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 12 November 14 16:35 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Phyllis Constance Harris
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 12 November 14 16:45 GMT (UK) »
1901 - RG13/970 f27 p19 
83 St James, Chichester
Catherine Harris   48 bn Oving, Sussex (Widow)
Elizabeth J Weaver 27 Daughter - Married bn Portsmouth
Beatrice A Harris 19 Daughter bn Chichester
Phyllis C Harris   11 Daughter bn Horsham

Same people are on 1891 at Rumbolds Wyke - Catherine is a widow and Elizabeth not yet married
RG12/841 f7 p7


Sorry we are not allowed to do 1911 look ups
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Re: Phyllis Constance Harris
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 November 14 16:50 GMT (UK) »
wow Rosie that was quick!!   Thanks.

The address I have is Avalon, St James, Chichester.  So I assume my relative, who by the way is a woman,  was living in her house. 
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Re: Phyllis Constance Harris
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 November 14 16:52 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps she went to live with an Aunt/cousin/etc , or even just with another spinster as a "companion". Or vice versa - they came to live with her.

Who was the person who died? How did she describe Phyllis in her Will? Does she give a relationship, or say "friend" or does she just give her name?
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Phyllis Constance Harris
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 12 November 14 16:59 GMT (UK) »
Rosie, no she was not a relative that I know of!    My rellie is Kathleen Alice Redman b. 1899 d. 1932.  Base born daughter of Kathleen Mary Redman born Arundel.  She brought up by grandparents and lived in Arundel.  Know tons about my beloved Redmans not much about her.  Dad always led to believe by grandparents she was his aunt not his cousin!!!  He put two and two together when he was older.  She was known as Dolly.

No relationship mentioned in will just says Spinster!
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Re: Phyllis Constance Harris
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 12 November 14 17:09 GMT (UK) »
Have you got a copy of the actual Will?

I see Phyllis was the executor of the Will. That does not mean she was necessarily one of the benficiaries of the estate.

Probate index entry -
Kathleen Alice Redman of Avalon 83 St James Chichester spinster died 14 July 1932 Probate Winchester 21 Oct to Phyllis Constance Harris spinster
Effects £715 - 13s - 7d
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Phyllis Constance Harris
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 12 November 14 18:01 GMT (UK) »
Have you got a copy of the actual Will?

I see Phyllis was the executor of the Will. That does not mean she was necessarily one of the benficiaries of the estate.


Oh, I thought she got the money! No not got copy of will. Only just started looking into her! Wills are expensive I believe.

I not that good at this, only been doing it seriously couple years. I sometimes miss the obvious in my excitement at finding something ???

Crossed my mind she could have been a relative wrong of me to dismiss that. I have a lot to learn.

Thanks everyone for your replies.

Jane
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Moore County Down. Redman of Posey, Indiana, USA Emigrated 1820

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Re: Phyllis Constance Harris
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 12 November 14 18:07 GMT (UK) »
£10 I believe.

The index entry shows that Phyllis was granted Probate. That means that she was given the authority to distribute the estate in accordance with the Will.
To find out how the Estate was distributed you need to get a copy of the actual Will.
You may find that Kathleen gives more info about Phyllis in it E.g she may say something like "I appoint my dear friend Phyllis as my executor" or " I appoint my second cousin Phyllis as my executor" - or may she may not ! She may just give her name!
Likewise if Phyllis is a beneficiary of any part of the estate, the wording of the Will may give a clue as to what the connection was. Or, may not.
But if you want to know what the connection between Kathleen and Phyllis is, as this Probate index entry is the only lead, then getting a copy of the Will is the only way to proceed.

Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk