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Offline Berni17

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I am looking for the family Schöfmann/Schofman in Manchester
« on: Friday 14 November 14 23:29 GMT (UK) »
Hallo!

My uncle Franz Schöfmann has long been looking for the descendants of his emigrated great uncle Matthias Schöfmann. He was born at 10.08.1894 in Unterschoderlee, district Mistelbach in Lower Austria, Austria and emigrated to Manchester and died on 23.11 1934.

Schöffmann Matthias was during the first world war, civil interned in the UK.

According to my uncle, he was a restaurant manager.

See the following link:

http://666kb.com/i/ctglbkyvzc10c49p4.jpg
http://666kb.com/i/ctglc9kmvr85ii32w.jpg
 
Because I am working on the genealogy (area: Austria, Czech Republic) I have promised him my help.

As far as is currently my research:

Matthias Schöfmann was married to Nellie Ward Cottam since 1907 (I do not know the exact date). In the years of 1915 to 1917 are always letters sent to Austria (Unterschoderlee) with the address: 34 Sherbourne Street, Manchester.

Except Frank Louis (*1910, Prestwich, Manchester, + 1939-1945 ?) I have found no other descendants of Mathias and Nellie.

Frank Louis Junior (1930's, Manchester or Bury, + March 2002 ?, Malvern, Worcestershire) seems to also have been the only child of his parents (Frank Louis Schofmann and Violet Glydis [Gladys] Tomlinson, (* 04.02.1913, Salford, + March 2004 ?, Cheshire County).

Source: BMD Certs - Marriage, District: Salford, Vol. 8d, Page 609, year 1934
Source: BMD Certs - Birth, District: Bury, Vol. 8c, Page 524, 1935
Source: BMD Certs - Death, District: Malvern, Worcestershire, Vol. 5211, Page 30D, 2002

The last letter (by Frank Louis) was sent 1938 to Unterschoderlee (Austria).

Apparently the family Schöfmann changed from 1935 to 1945 the family name to Chapman.

Violet have married again in the 1940's Albert Edward Mason. (if that's true)

Source: BMD Certs - Marriage, District: Salford, Vol. 8d, Page 1061, year 1946

Frank Louis junior Schofman (Chapman) should probably have a brother (Robert W. Chapman, * 1930's, Bury) and a sister (Lillian Chapman, * 1940's, Manchester) and 3 half brothers and a half sister (surname Mason).

Source: BMD Certs - Birth, District: Bury, Vol. 8c, Page 744, 1930's
Source: BMD Certs - Birth, District: Manchester, Vol. 8d, Page 346, 1940's

My uncle would be very happy if a contact with the  siblings or half-siblings of Frank Louis Junior Schofman (Chapman) would be possible.

Any help would be gratefully appreciated.

Greetings from Vienna

Bernhard Hammer  ;)

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Re: I am looking for the family Schöfmann/Schofman in Manchester
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 15 November 14 00:11 GMT (UK) »
34 Sherborne Street was the family home of James Louis Cottam a prison warder born Gibralter

Nellies parents home.

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Re: I am looking for the family Schöfmann/Schofman in Manchester
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 15 November 14 00:41 GMT (UK) »
Looks like Nellie born c.1883 Congleton was a visitor in 1901 census in Brentford with Harry Kellett and wife Ada nee Salt. Indexed as Mellie.

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Re: I am looking for the family Schöfmann/Schofman in Manchester
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 15 November 14 00:50 GMT (UK) »
The only Robert W chapman I can find registered in Bury in 1939 mothers maiden name Tomlinson.

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Re: I am looking for the family Schöfmann/Schofman in Manchester
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 15 November 14 04:51 GMT (UK) »
Found this Frank Louis Snr, birth date and place:

Baptism: 27 Nov 1910 St James, Broughton, Lancashire
Frank Louis Schofmann - [Child] of Matthew Frank Schofmann & Nelly
Born: 30 Oct 1910
Abode: 34 Sherbourne St.
Occupation: Waiter
Baptised by: S. Nugent Perry
Register: Baptisms 1908 - 1920, Page 73, Entry 583
Source: Original Parish Register

((So Matthias was using his anglicised name of Matthew Frank Shoffmann))
((Futher down the page is an entry for Tomlinson - look at the occupation also waiter, the two families may have known each other and worked together? Could their children have married?))

Baptism: 21 Apr 1909 St James, Broughton, Lancs.
Elizabeth Annie Tomlinson - [Child] of William Edward Tomlinson & Emily
Born: 29 Mar 1909
Abode: 59 Marlborough Rd.
Occupation: Waiter
Baptised by: W. Mercer
Register: Baptisms 1908 - 1920, Page 28, Entry 224
Source: Original Parish Register

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Salford/Broughton/stjames/baptisms_1908-1911.html
Wemyss/Crombie/Laing/Blyth (West Wemyss)
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Clark/Lister (Dysart)
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Re: I am looking for the family Schöfmann/Schofman in Manchester
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 15 November 14 08:06 GMT (UK) »
@ jennifer c, @ whiteout7

Thanks for your speedy replies and invaluable help.   :)

I still have a question. How can I find out where Frank Louis (jun.) Schofman or Chapman (+ 2002) or his mother (Violet G Mason, + 2004) has lived last. 
Are there any address books or newspapers where I can find something?

Greetings Bernhard


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Re: I am looking for the family Schöfmann/Schofman in Manchester
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 15 November 14 10:08 GMT (UK) »
Do you have this information?

Wills and administration

Frank Louis Chapman of 14 Pine Avenue Whitefield, Lancashire died on or since 22nd November 1943 on war service Administration Manchester 27 September to Violet Gladys Chapman widow. Effects £490 4s 8d

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Re: I am looking for the family Schöfmann/Schofman in Manchester
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 15 November 14 13:14 GMT (UK) »
I did not know about this webside. Many thanks to Heather for the great work!

Bernhard  ;D