Reynolds New Kilpatrick Dunbartonshire

[catie]

Hi there
Look for My ggreat grandparents married 1848 New Kilpatrick Dunbartonshire James Reynolds and Margaret Cannon. This is where I am stuck! Any help on either of them?
Catie

[audrey]

Hi there
Look for My ggreat grandparents married 1848 New Kilpatrick Dunbartonshire James Reynolds and Margaret Cannon. This is where I am stuck! Any help on either of them?
Catie

any idear where these two were born or there date of birth  I have looked for the marriage on BVRI and its not there have you got the cert does it give the names of the parents

audrey

[catie]

yes they were married 17.11.1848 in New Kilpatrick  I have a copy of marriage certificate from there, but as I said I am stuck there I think may be they came from Glasgow originally but still not sure My Mum remembers her granny saying this but again it only  heresay.

[catie]

 
Sorry I do not have parents names. But Anthony, Thomas, Hugh  James are all through the family ever since same as Margaret, Jane Agnes and   Catherine 

[AMBLY]

Hi Catie
Is this your James REYNOLDS  & Margaret CANNON on C81?
Although there is some mis-alignment between the ages at Census and the children birth entries on IGI, there are a lot of similarities also?  Is there any info on the Census data you can check against known records, for eg: James' occupation? The brother in law on C81 does not necessarily have to be Margaret's brother.

Dwelling:   6 Allander Terrace
   Census Place:   New Kilpatrick, Dumbarton, Scotland
   Source:   FHL Film 0203551     GRO Ref    Volume 500    EnumDist 14    Page 4
   Marr   Age   Sex   Birthplace
James REYNOLDS   M   68    M   Ireland
   Rel:   Head
   Occ:   Contractor
Margaret REYNOLDS   M   50    F   Ireland
   Rel:   Wife
   Occ:   Contractors Wife
Henry REYNOLDS   U   27    M   Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Mason
James REYNOLDS   U   21    M   Milngavie, Stirling, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Masons Labourer
Thos. REYNOLDS       10    M   Milngavie, Stirling, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Scholar
Anthony REYNOLDS       8    M   New Kilpatrick, Dunbarton, Scotland
   Rel:   Son
   Occ:   Scholar
John CONNELLY   U   56    M   Ireland
   Rel:   Bro In Law
   Occ:   Pensioner
Agnes REYNOLDS   U   16    F   Milngavie, Stirling, Scotland
   Rel:   Daur
   Occ:   Pupil Teacher

Cheers
Anne

[catie]

       :Hi Anne
Thank you so much for your answer but unfortunately I think it is someone else because their children were:
Anthony  24.6.1858
James     10.8.1859
Thomas   28.1.1862
Agnes     12.7.1864
Jane         5.2.1867
Thomas   18.8.1869
Anthony   14.7.1871       This were we come in.

He immigrated to Australia in 1893 after he was married.  Funny she came from Ireland because Anthony Reynolds (1871)  married  1892  Margaret McLaughlan from Ireland. They had 5 children and 2 of them died as babies.

Thank you again   

[kenjo]

Hi Catie,
I think Ambly is right with the 1881c.
Quite often there are children missing in the records. Never to be found.....
This is the family in the 1871c living at ............Mains Mill New Killpatrick.

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[AMBLY]

Hi Catie - & Kenjo 
With Kenjo's 1871 census, I am still more convinced they are the your family. Ages can be notoriously out on Census - as these 81 & 71 show if these 2 census are  the same family, and I really believe they are! Place of birth can also be wrong for various reasons, I've found countless proof of this in my own family research.

You've a list of children that do not include any before 1858, yet the parents married 1848. Given they seem to be quite prolific with the issue, I'd wonder about there being others prior to 1858 - ie: 22 yr William off the C71 and 27 yr old Henry from the C81. You also have a Glasgow connection to go with the family belief, ie: the birth of Henry, though in 1871 it says he was born Stirling.

By 1881, Mary from 1871 could be married, or working/living elsewhere and William is probably here in 1881:

Dwelling:   Wests Land
   Census Place:   New Kilpatrick, Dumbarton, Scotland
   Source:   FHL Film 0203551     GRO Ref    Volume 500    EnumDist 17    Page 27
   Marr   Age   Sex   Birthplace
William REYNOLDS   M   31    M   Milngavie, Stirling, Scotland
   Rel:   Head
   Occ:   Gardener (Dom Serv)
Elizabeth REYNOLDS   M   28    F   Lonmay, Aberdeen, Scotland
   Rel:   Wife
Jane REYNOLDS       8    F   Maryhill, Lanark, Scotland
   Rel:   Daur
William REYNOLDS       3    M   Milngavie, Stirling, Scotland
   Rel:   Son

ALso, it occurs to me that CONNOR and CONNELLY could be mistranscribed for each other - the brother in law in 1881, could be a CONNOR, or could Margaret have been a CONNELLY rather than a CONNOR?

Anyway,  I certainly wouldn't write off the 1881 / 1871 families. It is also Anthony in the 1881 that helps strengthen the links - it's not that common of a name, I don't think, for there to be a lot of them about of the same name with the same named parents and same named siblings (give or take one or two )as you are looking for?

Isn't genealogy fun? I often wonder at why or how things seem so muddled on Censii - I like to picture entire families sitting about after the Census man has gone, saying " Crumbs, I told him wee Mary was 8, I forgot she's 10 now".  I can also imagine a father of many children forgetting which one was what age !!

Good luck Catie !

Cheers
Anne

[kenjo]

Anne!!
I totally, agree with everything you said...
Definitely, the right family.