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Martha Williams Llanwrst
« on: Tuesday 18 November 14 14:48 GMT (UK) »
Has anybody come across Martha Williams born 1885 Bettws y Coed but brought up- in Llanwrsyt .
Father was John Williams born about 1857 Llanwrst and Mother was Anne (Thomas) born 1859.
Siblings Laura Anne, later Owen died 1966 Morfa Nefyn, William Williams born 1888 died 1954 Nefyn, there was another Sister Nellie or Ellen born about 1894 who i have no trace of . Both Sister were mentioned in Williams Army discharge papers in 1919. 

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Re: Martha Williams Llanwrst
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 18 November 14 16:29 GMT (UK) »
There is a tree on Ancestry with this family which states Martha had 4 siblings, Laura A born 1884 Betws Y Coed,William born 1888 Betws Y Coed, Mary born & died 1891 Llanrwst and Ellen born 10th August 1894 Llanrwst she died 1978 Trafford, Cheshire.
Martha married Robert Wynne 1910. I'm not sure if this information is in fact true and suggest you check it.

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Ellen

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Re: Martha Williams Llanwrst
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 19 November 14 09:33 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Ellen that is very helpful and looks like the right family. William is my Grandfather. I don't subscribe to Ancestry so I might pop into the local archive centre to see if I can have a look at this tree.
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Re: Martha Williams Llanwrst
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 19 November 14 10:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Not sure if you've seen the  1891 Census

RG12/4631/14/19
Back Watling Street, Llanrwst
John Williams, 34, Agricultural labourer, b. Llanrwst
Anne, 31, b. Bethesda
Dora Anne, 6, b. Betwsycoed
Martha, 5, b. do
William, 3, b. do
Mary, 3 mths, b. Llanrwst

Possible in 1901:

RG13/5241/20/31
7 Wellington Place, Llanrwst
John Williams, widower, 44, carter to coal dealer, b. Llanrwst
William, 12, b. Llanrwst

And Martha in 1901:

Swan Inn, Denbigh Street, Llanrwst
RG13/5241/14/19
Household of John R Jones
Martha Williams, 15, nurse (domestic), b. Betwsycoed


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Re: Martha Williams Llanwrst
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 19 November 14 13:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi Gadget, yes thank you got all that, I also have Nellie living with her Grandmother in 1901 and 1911 in Llanwrst.
William left home to join the army in 1906 and when he left in 1919 it states on his discharge papers that William did not know of his Fathers  whereabouts. I believe he was working for his Daughters Husband in the Nefyn area but have never been able to prove it. He also lists his Sisters using their Maiden names which leads me to assume they are single at this time.
Thanks for your trouble though.
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Re: Martha Williams Llanwrst
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 19 November 14 13:07 GMT (UK) »
Ellen,
Have checked the Marriage you mention for Martha and I have the certificate. The Marriage is wrong as the Father for Marthar is incorrect as are the address and occupation.
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Re: Martha Williams Llanwrst
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 20 November 14 17:20 GMT (UK) »
I have been back to look at the tree and they also have a marriage for Ellen to Arthur Wilfred Ashley who was born 1901 Lower Withington, Cheshire died 1978 Stockport. They had one son but it doesn't show his name, as he is probably still alive. If you would like any more information from the tree let me know.

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Re: Martha Williams Llanwrst
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 20 November 14 18:14 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Ellen this looks promising will look into it over next few days and let you know how i get on.
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Mike

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Re: Martha Williams Llanwrst
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 23 November 14 11:10 GMT (UK) »
Morning Ellen,have looked at Arthur Wilfred Ashley, the A W Ashley born 1901 Whitchurch S Registration District seems to have Married Beatrice Hewitt in Dec 1925 same district. Could you have another look to see if the Marriage shows any more detail on the tree please. I have followed this individual through and found a Son and two possible Daughters/Siblings still living, still not convinced it is correct though.
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Mike