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Re: ITALIAN RESEARCH
« Reply #315 on: Wednesday 13 February 19 16:28 GMT (UK) »
Isbura,
For once got a speedy reply, but its not good news.
The State Archives have said they can only check if they have 00/00/000 or at least a precise year.  Plus they would need to know the precise town where the subject was born.
In our case they say it would need a manuel search of  the registers they hold for  all the towns in the Province of Parma.  There are 45 towns in the province.  They do not do this and have suggested that someone comes to the Archives and search the registers personally.  If I was near to I would gladly spend the day there, but I am in over 900 kms away in the South of Italy.

Sorry I have not be able help you, but if you come across at least a town let me know. 


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Re: ITALIAN RESEARCH
« Reply #316 on: Wednesday 13 February 19 17:10 GMT (UK) »
All I have is his birth date 16 Feb 1858. Parma, Italy. When Marco came to Canada he some how ended up in Niagara Falls, Ont. Canada. He did not speak english. He married an British Home Child in 1890, that was sent to Canada to work as a maid etc.. She had some schooling, could read and write. She changed his name to Mundier because she didn't want to be considered a Italian. He had many different spelling during the years here in Canada. His grandchildren didn't under stand him and his Children learned very little about Italian. He logged, work for Niagara falls in some form. Help build a gondola across the Falls from Niagara Falls, NY, USA to Niagara Falls, Ont. Canada. He all so worked on the bridge across for cars, Niagara Falls, NY to Niagara Falls, Ont. He was a very short man and his children all grew taller. He died in Toronto, Ont. Canada on July 13, 1953.

My Mother-in-law only knew that he was born in a village (Parma) and was a shepherd.

Thanks so much

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Re: ITALIAN RESEARCH
« Reply #317 on: Wednesday 13 February 19 18:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi Linda,
Great - will e-mail the Archives with this date and "Parma", which seems to be where he was born.  I presume obviously in 1858 Parma was a village and has evolved over time.
Lets hope for some good news!

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« Reply #318 on: Wednesday 13 February 19 20:05 GMT (UK) »
It's me again, Steve.

The village priest is said to have raped Marco's sister. That's why he had a fight with the priest. He might of knocked the priest down and maybe the priest hit his head. Marco thought he had killed the priest and he ran. We think he ran over the mountains and stowed away on the first ship he came across. Which landed in Canada. Don't know how he made it to Niagara Falls with no money, didn't speak the lang. He never could sign his name, used an X on all legal papers. He and Emma Jennings had 10-12 children.

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Re: ITALIAN RESEARCH
« Reply #319 on: Friday 15 February 19 13:13 GMT (UK) »
Diedre,
Just got a  reply from Genoa (Genova).
They have searched for FRANCELLI, Mario from 1875 to 1885 and there is no registration.

So he must have been born somewhere else, but where?  Any clues let me know.

Sorry not much help.

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« Reply #320 on: Friday 15 February 19 14:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi Steve, thanks for trying; maybe the 1921 census will yield more clues when itís published. I am likely to have a long list to check on when it is 😀
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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« Reply #321 on: Thursday 21 February 19 02:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi Steve

Me again. I was wondering if it is possible to get a death registration from Tirano for Giovanni Gandini. He died on or about 26 April 1919. Thanks.

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« Reply #322 on: Thursday 21 February 19 07:32 GMT (UK) »
mixedupmob,
Yes, no problem.  Have sent e-mail to Tirano this morning.

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« Reply #323 on: Wednesday 03 April 19 11:28 BST (UK) »
mixedupmob,
Miracle!!
Just received this morning after a month and half the Death certificate of Giovanni Gandini. Has place and date of Death, age at Death and his parents names.
The columns are numbered and there is a sheet with the numbers and translation in 8 languages, so I have not translated.
Send me a PM with your e-mail and I will send them to you.  I will erase your e-mail address afterwards.

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