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Marriage of Richard Sutton to Phoebe Gillett 1815 ?
« on: Thursday 20 November 14 10:54 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone help me with the marriage of Richard Sutton to Phoebe Gillett.
They are my 5 times great - grandparents.

They show on birth certificates and census as being the parents of 10 children.

Richard was born in Nottingham 1789. Son of Charles and Ann.

Phoebe was born in Derbyshire 1799. Family unknown !!

Alexander Kilham Sutton was born in 1837 at the family house and print/newspaper business        ( Nottingham Review ) both parents show on his birth certificate.


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Re: Marriage of Richard Sutton to Phoebe Gillett 1815 ?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 20 November 14 12:17 GMT (UK) »
It looks like Phoebe was a second Wife.
There is a large gap in Childrens ages if this is the 1841 Census for the Family so some may have left Home or died.

Phoebe Sutton    38
John Sutton    20, Printer
Sarah Sutton    18
Richard Sutton    7
Alfred Sutton    5
Alexander Sutton 3
Frederick Sutton 1
Rebecca Senedley 19
Ellen Lees    18
Melicent Javers 15

The address is Bottle Lane in 1841

BAPTISMS;
St Mary, Nottingham
CHARLES SALT Sutton, 12 Dec 1813 (abode Goose Gate)
ANN WILSON Sutton, 23 April 1815
THOMAS SALT Sutton, 29 June 1817
JOHN FROST Sutton, 03 Oct 1820
ELIZA SARAH Sutton, 22 Jan 1822
SARAH JANE Sutton, 05 July 1823
HENRY SEPTIMUS Sutton, 04 March 1825
SAMUEL OCTAVIUS, 05 Oct 1827

All of the above have Fathers Occp as a Printer, Abode Bottle Lane on all except Charles S 1813
Parents RICHARD/SARAH

Then we Have at same Church;
RICHARD CHARLES Sutton, 09 Nov 1833
ALFRED GILLETT Sutton, 30 July 1835
Parents RICHARD/PHOEBE
Abode Bottle Lane
Fathers Occp Printer on Richard and Printer to the Review on Alfreds

All above on FreeREG

Richard SUTTON Married Sarah SALT, 23 February 1813, Stanton By Dale, Derbyshire
(Source Familysearch.Org)

So somewhere between 1828-1833 Richard /Phoebe Married  :)



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Re: Marriage of Richard Sutton to Phoebe Gillett 1815 ?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 20 November 14 12:49 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Trish,

My inkling was that Richard was married before Phoebe.
The Salts are familiar to me.

Phoebe Gillett and her parents came from Derbyshire.
Sutton, Spargo, Stripling, Downham, Atherton, Crabb,
Routledge,

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Re: Marriage of Richard Sutton to Phoebe Gillett 1815 ?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 20 November 14 12:56 GMT (UK) »
Sorry cant find anything on Phoebe.
Hopefully someone else can.

Richards Baptism is on FreeREG 1789 to Charles/Ann
Marriage of Charles to Ann WILSON is there also.
Also Charles Baptism 1765 and his Parents Marriage 1762
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Re: Marriage of Richard Sutton to Phoebe Gillett 1815 ?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 20 November 14 14:23 GMT (UK) »
The 1861 census gives Phoebe's birthplace as Blackbrook, Derbyshire.   Blackbrook was a hamlet 2 miles west of Belper.  (I haven't been able to find her in 1851 or 1871).

Familysearch shows 6 children baptised between 1793 and 1801 at Independent, Belper and Heage, Derbyshire to a John Gillott and wife Elizabeth.   John Gillett married Elizabeth Rice 24/3/1793 Duffield, Derbyshire.   Non-conformist baptism coverage can be pretty sketchy to say the least so this could possibly be Phoebe's family.   Does the name Rice come up in your family at all?

Best I can come up with.

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Re: Marriage of Richard Sutton to Phoebe Gillett 1815 ?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 22 November 14 13:01 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Annette,

The Rice family name is new to me, yet quite probable.
Phoebe was born in 1799, so it fits in.

I shall do more research, as my Sutton ancestors were ducking and diving as were their want.
Sutton, Spargo, Stripling, Downham, Atherton, Crabb,
Routledge,