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Re: Edward Orpen
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 23 November 14 20:00 GMT (UK) »
The Morning Post (London, England), Thursday, August 19, 1824
CONVICTION OF A MAGISTRATE FOR PERJURY
The next case was the trial of Edward Orpen; Esq, a Gentleman who had served for a great number of years as Magistrate of the county Kerry, and was put upon his trial for wilful and corrupt perjury. He was found guilty and sentenced for transportation for seven years.


I have also found the newspaper article on his full trial, if you havent already got it and would like a copy PM me your email and i will forward it on. [the article is to long to type out and post on here]

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Re: Edward Orpen
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 23 November 14 20:19 GMT (UK) »
Thank you giblet.  I have already read the trial.  We grumble about justice today but thankfully it has come some way since then.  Sent you a pm.  Thanks again  :)
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Re: Edward Orpen
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 23 November 14 22:22 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Aussie - that is really kind of you.  My gut feeling is that he was joined in Dec 1824 by some of his family and that Maria Orpen could have been his wife Maria Crumpe Orpen.  He did leave behind, when transported,  a wife and eight children.

Ebch,
Do you know the names of any of Edward ORPEN's children?
Had you seen this shipping detail?

Mrs ORPEN and family per Lang from Hobart 1826.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/8790603
 

He was not the only chap named ORPEN in the colony at that time, but there are some BMD items which may relate to your family.

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Re: Edward Orpen
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 23 November 14 22:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Many of the parish registers for Hexham C of E (Christ Church Cathedral) and surrounds are readily available as images and the links are  part of RootsChat NSW Resources Board.   

There are two registrations. 369/1829 V18291369 13 and 8268/1829 V18298268 2C
The place is actually HEXHAM and is near Newcastle NSW

I can confirm that volumes 13 and 2C are C of E. 

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=369703.0    NSW Resources

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Re: Edward Orpen
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 23 November 14 22:46 GMT (UK) »
https://www.flickr.com/photos/uon/2465674175/in/set-72157605008173551/

No. 80
Ewd Orpen, of Patersons River, buried 7 January, (1829) of Unknown age,  Ship’s name Sir Godfrey Webster, a Prisoner, Ceremony performed by  Rev Wilkinson.

Note, NSW SRO has his age as 57

http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/searchform.aspx?id=65

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Re: Edward Orpen
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 23 November 14 22:52 GMT (UK) »
Edward Orpen 34 , convicted 1824 Tralee , arrived Sydney Cove 3 Jan 1826 on Sir Godfrey Webster. There is an entry in the Convict Death Registers :- Edward Orpen b abt 1792 died 7 Dec 1829 Hoxham , Newcastle , New South Wales

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Hi there,

May I gently mention that from the link cited, there's some mistookens 

 :) The date on that register is 07/01/1829, so that's January, and not Dec (ember)
 :) The age of 57 gives a birth year of about 1772,  so that's a generation earlier than 1792. 

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Re: Edward Orpen
« Reply #15 on: Monday 24 November 14 00:10 GMT (UK) »
Sir Godfrey Webster indents 1826

Edward ORPEN, aged 54, Reads and Writes,
Protestant, Married,  Wife and 8 Children,
of Co Kerry,
charged with Perjury, trial at Tralee, Summer Assizes 1824,   
sentenced to 7 years transportation, no previous convictions.
5ft 7 ˝ inches,  fair florid complexion,  dark hair  light hazel eyes,   
Assigned to F Greenway, Sydney.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Greenway   


1828 NSW Census likely has the wife and children under her maiden name.   

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Re: Edward Orpen
« Reply #16 on: Monday 24 November 14 00:49 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Edward Orpen
« Reply #17 on: Monday 24 November 14 01:17 GMT (UK) »

Hi,

The Orpen family members who arrived in Sydney on the Lang from London via Hobart.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/2185104?searchTerm=

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