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Benjamin Jones and Alice Williamina McMurtry
« on: Friday 21 November 14 22:21 GMT (UK) »
My ancestors married in Knockbreda near Belfast in 1865 and moved to Glasgow shortly after. They settled in Cornwall street and had nine children so must have many hundreds of descendants like me. Any other Jones geneologists share these ancestors?

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Re: Benjamin Jones and Alice Williamina McMurtry
« Reply #1 on: Friday 21 November 14 23:36 GMT (UK) »
Maybe didn't go to Scotland that quick! actually, looks they were back and forth a bit-

James Alexander (1866 Belfast) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F55F-7RM
Alice (1868 Glasgow) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQ9R-38N
John (1870 Belfast) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FPY1-K5Y
Hugh (1872 Glasgow) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQFM-BG8
Mary Helen (1873 Glasgow) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQ9T-MR4

Scottish census and vital records should let you trace the family members that stayed in Scotland.
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Re: Benjamin Jones and Alice Williamina McMurtry
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 22 November 14 10:43 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your input. I used census & other basic tools 5 years ago to build up a tree and lost interest for a while but now looking to flesh it out a bit and wondering if there's any distant relation working on the same  tree.
I didn't know if they were itinerant workers or there were family issues prompting their coming and going back to Ireland. We were led to believe he was a Welshman but declares himself in the census as born in Ireland. His death certificate (1908) suggests his father, John Jones was a sargeant in the Royal Irish Constabulary, possibly at Castlereagh, but I'm unable to take that further without a service number. It's not likely John Jones was from Knockbreda as RIC personnel were stationed away from their home towns to avoid reprisals. As is no doubt often the case in Northern Ireland and W. Scotland, my grandparents mixed marriage meant that there was no contact with our extended Jones family during my life.

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Re: Benjamin Jones and Alice Williamina McMurtry
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 22 November 14 11:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi Redgull

Welcome to RootsChat  :)

Someone else researching this line here http://irishgenealogyqueries.yuku.com/topic/1050/Find-Sergeant-John-Jones#.VHBxN8n-tr8

Monica
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Re: Benjamin Jones and Alice Williamina McMurtry
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 22 November 14 12:00 GMT (UK) »
Hate to put a damper on things but after reading the link Monica posted I'm wondering if there's been a bit too many assumptions made from the few records found so far.

Benjamin's marriage certificate (1865) lists his residence at the time of the marriage but this might not be where he was from or where his family lived. Any clues from the names of the two witnesses?

However, the name of Benjimin's mother, Jane or Mary Jane McCaig, mentioned there could help.
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Re: Benjamin Jones and Alice Williamina McMurtry
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 22 November 14 15:12 GMT (UK) »
redgull, given that you are looking for possible descendants like yourself, there at least two A/try family trees for this family group. If you have access/subs, these are the trees here:

http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/41084089/person/20305496000?ssrc=

http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/74011512/person/34285813548?ssrc=

They have Alice as Alice Wylie McMurty rather than Williamina, but Williamina may be a further middle name for her.

Monica



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Re: Benjamin Jones and Alice Williamina McMurtry
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 22 November 14 18:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi Monica,
It was me who posted on th Irish genealogy site a couple of years ago but I was unable to use the same Username here.
I appreciate your comments about A/try, I can get access in our local library so will have a look on monday morning.
Alice shortened her middle name to Wylie in a number of the census records but it's most likely her.
I'll post my findings and thanks for your support.

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Re: Benjamin Jones and Alice Williamina McMurtry
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 22 November 14 18:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi redgull  :)

Both links I posted to trees on a/try are great, in particular, the first has photos and images. Hopefully you can contact them to try and move things forward  :)

I thought the other link I posted was yours  ;) Odd, but people use the same language/writing style, which is good  :)

Monica
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