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Offline finta

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Deciphering an offence on criminal record.
« on: Sunday 23 November 14 13:36 GMT (UK) »
I've found a criminal record for someone who may be my ancestor, but I can't understand what the offence was:

He was given 7 days Hard Labour for what looks like 'Lodging Out' between Dec 1906 and Mar 1907.  On the same page there are a lot of other 'Lodging Out' convictions. 

Does anybody know what this might mean?

Thank you!

Finta



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Re: Deciphering an offence on criminal record.
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 23 November 14 13:48 GMT (UK) »
It could mean lodging in a certain outhouse having neither home nor habitation, or wandering abroad and lodging in the open air not having any visible means of subsistence and not giving a good account of himself. See http://vcp.e2bn.org/search/index.php?cmd=search&searchstring=lodging+out&submit=SEARCH

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Re: Deciphering an offence on criminal record.
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 23 November 14 13:49 GMT (UK) »
I believe it is referring to lodging out-of-doors, which was illegal by the Vagrancy Act 1824 (5 Geo. 4. c. 83)
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Geo4/5/83

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Re: Deciphering an offence on criminal record.
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 23 November 14 13:54 GMT (UK) »
An offence under the Vagrancy Act 1824,
Persons committing certain offences to be deemed rogues and vagabonds.
 every person wandering abroad and lodging in any barn or outhouse, or in any deserted or unoccupied building, or in the open air, or under a tent, or in any cart or waggon, not having any visible means of subsistence] and not giving a good account of himself or herself;.......  it shall be lawful for any justice of the peace to commit such offender (being thereof convicted before him by the confession of such offender, or by the evidence on oath of one or more credible witness or witnesses,) to the house of correction, . . .  for any time not exceeding three calendar months; .
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Geo4/5/83/section/4

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Re: Deciphering an offence on criminal record.
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 23 November 14 14:44 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Stanmapstone and Alexander! 

If this is my relative, I guess he was punished for destitution. 

Thanks again,

Finta
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Durham: Robertson, Carroll
Ireland:  Carroll, Fanning
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Re: Deciphering an offence on criminal record.
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 04 September 16 09:12 BST (UK) »
Hi,
It doesn't always mean that they were criminals, it may be that they had an unfortunate mishap in life and became homeless.  I have a great great uncle who lived with his wife and her parents and worked at their butcher shop in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire.  His wife died in 1886, and a few months later he was jailed for "lodging in an outhouse".  Maybe his in-laws decided they didn't like him or need him working for them anymore, and kicked him out, or visa versa.  I am hoping one day we will find something to explain his living in the outhouse.  Sad times if you didn't have the support or refused it.
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