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Request for help with faint 1841 census entry from Ancestry.
« on: Monday 24 November 14 09:10 GMT (UK) »
I attach a page from the 1841 census for Batheaston near Bath, Somerset.

Ancestry has transcribed the children and ages clearly on another page but does not list the occupations or yes/no answers.

I'm interested in the occupation of the head of the household in the red box on the attached page.  It looks like "foot monger" to me but I'm sure that can't be right! 

The children were christened in Somerset and the "Born in the county?" answer seems to be "Y" for them but am I right in thinking the parents are "No"?

I'd be very grateful for any help from anyone who's better at reading these things than I am! 

Thanks,

Therese
Berkshire: Atty, Carter, Dowlin, Knibb, Long, Wheeler.
Devon: Channon, Dunsford, Hawkins, James, Payne, Pope, Snow, Willis, Wilson.
Bristol/Bedminster: Hawkins.
Cambridgeshire: Randall, Squires.
Kent: Burren, Buss, Field, Foster, Gates, Glover, Homewood, Hunt, Large, Link, Rabbitt, Ventum.
Somerset: Adams, Allen, Lockyer, Savage.
Warwickshire: Knibb.
Wiltshire: Akerman, Bourton/Borton, Burden, Clarke, Dodson, Fry, Gray, Lea, Munday, Rummin(ge), Stiles, Stratton, Teagle, Underwood, Weston.

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Re: Request for help with faint 1841 census entry from Ancestry.
« Reply #1 on: Monday 24 November 14 09:15 GMT (UK) »
I'd agree with you on the fact that the parents are born out of county = No.

Occupation I would say is "Fishmonger"

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Re: Request for help with faint 1841 census entry from Ancestry.
« Reply #2 on: Monday 24 November 14 09:36 GMT (UK) »
Looks more like Fellmonger - a dealer in, or preparer of, animal skins
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Re: Request for help with faint 1841 census entry from Ancestry.
« Reply #3 on: Monday 24 November 14 09:48 GMT (UK) »
There's a report on an inquest in the Bath Chronicle and Weekly Gazette for 22 October 1863 - the death of Charles Gray aged 68 from drowning in a ditch at Batheaston. Doesn't mention his occupation though!
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Re: Request for help with faint 1841 census entry from Ancestry.
« Reply #4 on: Monday 24 November 14 10:12 GMT (UK) »
I agree with Fellmonger.   Viewed on another site and although still faint you can clearly see the 2 'l's'.

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Re: Request for help with faint 1841 census entry from Ancestry.
« Reply #5 on: Monday 24 November 14 14:16 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: ShaunJ on Monday 24 November 14 09:36 GMT (UK)
Looks more like Fellmonger - a dealer in, or preparer of, animal skins

It does, doesn't it.  And that's a lot clearer!  Thanks very much.  ;-)

Therese
Berkshire: Atty, Carter, Dowlin, Knibb, Long, Wheeler.
Devon: Channon, Dunsford, Hawkins, James, Payne, Pope, Snow, Willis, Wilson.
Bristol/Bedminster: Hawkins.
Cambridgeshire: Randall, Squires.
Kent: Burren, Buss, Field, Foster, Gates, Glover, Homewood, Hunt, Large, Link, Rabbitt, Ventum.
Somerset: Adams, Allen, Lockyer, Savage.
Warwickshire: Knibb.
Wiltshire: Akerman, Bourton/Borton, Burden, Clarke, Dodson, Fry, Gray, Lea, Munday, Rummin(ge), Stiles, Stratton, Teagle, Underwood, Weston.

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Re: Request for help with faint 1841 census entry from Ancestry.
« Reply #6 on: Monday 24 November 14 14:17 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: ShaunJ on Monday 24 November 14 09:48 GMT (UK)
There's a report on an inquest in the Bath Chronicle and Weekly Gazette for 22 October 1863 - the death of Charles Gray aged 68 from drowning in a ditch at Batheaston. Doesn't mention his occupation though!

Fascinating.  This Charles Gray was probably nearer 60 at the time, but do you have a link to that?

Thanks!

Therese
Berkshire: Atty, Carter, Dowlin, Knibb, Long, Wheeler.
Devon: Channon, Dunsford, Hawkins, James, Payne, Pope, Snow, Willis, Wilson.
Bristol/Bedminster: Hawkins.
Cambridgeshire: Randall, Squires.
Kent: Burren, Buss, Field, Foster, Gates, Glover, Homewood, Hunt, Large, Link, Rabbitt, Ventum.
Somerset: Adams, Allen, Lockyer, Savage.
Warwickshire: Knibb.
Wiltshire: Akerman, Bourton/Borton, Burden, Clarke, Dodson, Fry, Gray, Lea, Munday, Rummin(ge), Stiles, Stratton, Teagle, Underwood, Weston.

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Re: Request for help with faint 1841 census entry from Ancestry.
« Reply #7 on: Monday 24 November 14 14:18 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Annette7 on Monday 24 November 14 10:12 GMT (UK)
I agree with Fellmonger.   Viewed on another site and although still faint you can clearly see the 2 'l's'.

Annette

So do I - it seems very plausible.  Thanks!

Therese
Berkshire: Atty, Carter, Dowlin, Knibb, Long, Wheeler.
Devon: Channon, Dunsford, Hawkins, James, Payne, Pope, Snow, Willis, Wilson.
Bristol/Bedminster: Hawkins.
Cambridgeshire: Randall, Squires.
Kent: Burren, Buss, Field, Foster, Gates, Glover, Homewood, Hunt, Large, Link, Rabbitt, Ventum.
Somerset: Adams, Allen, Lockyer, Savage.
Warwickshire: Knibb.
Wiltshire: Akerman, Bourton/Borton, Burden, Clarke, Dodson, Fry, Gray, Lea, Munday, Rummin(ge), Stiles, Stratton, Teagle, Underwood, Weston.

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Re: Request for help with faint 1841 census entry from Ancestry.
« Reply #8 on: Monday 24 November 14 15:31 GMT (UK) »
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This Charles Gray was probably nearer 60 at the time

He was shown as aged 40 in the 1841 census so could have been anything between 40 and 45 years old (adult ages were rounded down by the enumerators), suggesting a birth year in the 1795-1801 period. Not inconsistent with someone aged 68 in October 1863.

There's another report of the inquest in the Western Daily Press (19 October 1863) which locates him in Bailbrook (consistent with the 1841 census).

I couldn't find him in the 1851 or 1861 censuses though I did find some of the children.

You can find the press reports in British Newspaper Archive or FindMyPast.

Did you notice Mary Gisford on the same page in the 1841 census? I think Gisford was Elizabeth Gray's maiden name.
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