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Offline PabloC

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Where is Florence Beatrice Thomas and family pre-1911???
« on: Tuesday 25 November 14 09:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Can anyone  help me locate Florence Beatrice Thomas and her family on the available census returns please?

She was born on the 22nd April 1883 in 4 Tattersall Place, Bootle, Lancashire to parents Robert Hughes and Mary Ellen Thomas (nee Peva) and was baptised at St. Peter, Liverpool on the 21 May 1883. Both the birth certificate and baptism record state that Robert was a Joiner by trade.

Robert and Mary Ellen appear to have married in 1881, by virtue of a matching marriage (Registrar in attendance so presuming Catholic).

They had a daughter Elizabeth Ann, baptised at St. Peter, Liverpool on 22 April 1882 (born 21 March) and a daughter Minnie Louisa, also born in Tattersall Place, Bootle on the 23 April 1887.

Florence married Alexander McAdam at St. Mary, Kirkdale in 1907, and was residing in 28 Hector Street, Kirkdale by the time of the 1911 Census with Alexander and their two children Florence Christina and Ann Jane, with the census stating she was from ‘Bootle, Lancs’ [Source Ref: Class: RG14; Piece: 22481]

Working back from here I can find no obvious trace of them and would be very grateful for any assistance please!

Paul
Arnold - Liverpool
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Cox - Shropshire/Flintshire
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Re: Where is Florence Beatrice Thomas and family pre-1911???
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 25 November 14 09:21 GMT (UK) »
Surely, if she was born 1883, and her parents married in 1881, she would have been a Hughes?
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Re: Where is Florence Beatrice Thomas and family pre-1911???
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 25 November 14 09:24 GMT (UK) »
Beat me to it KGarrad  ;D
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Re: Where is Florence Beatrice Thomas and family pre-1911???
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 25 November 14 09:34 GMT (UK) »
The father was Robert Hughes Thomas
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Re: Where is Florence Beatrice Thomas and family pre-1911???
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 25 November 14 09:36 GMT (UK) »
just to confirm
http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/cgi/marrind.cgi
1881
Robert Thomas to Mary Ellen Peva register office or registrar attended
http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co.uk/liverpoolrcmarriages/marriages.php
the marriage is not on this site ...
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Where is Florence Beatrice Thomas and family pre-1911???
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 25 November 14 09:38 GMT (UK) »
Baptism record for Florence Beatrice Thomas b 22/4/1883 baptism 21/5/1883 Parish St Peter Liverpool mother Mary Thomas father Robert Thomas ....Joiner

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Re: Where is Florence Beatrice Thomas and family pre-1911???
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 25 November 14 09:41 GMT (UK) »
More children baptised at St Mary Kirkdale:

Lillie Thomas, 23 May 1889 (born 21 March, abode Tattersall Place, father a joiner)

Joseph Peva Thomas, 29 April 1885 ( born March 17th, Tattersall St, father a joiner).
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Re: Where is Florence Beatrice Thomas and family pre-1911???
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 25 November 14 09:44 GMT (UK) »
Here they are in 1901 - no parents

23 Lily Road
Bootle
Florence Thomas 17 head single  Diamond MAtch Company bn Bootle
Joseph 16 brother Ship Scraper
Minnie 13
Lily 10   

all bn Bootle


Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Where is Florence Beatrice Thomas and family pre-1911???
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 25 November 14 09:50 GMT (UK) »
http://cheshirebmd.org.uk/cgi/marrind.cgi
1913
Florence Beatrice Thomas to William George Thomas at St Mary Birkenhead
Birkenhead is across the river Mersey from Bootle
could this be her ??
ADDED....wrong lady her father was William Henry
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3NS-37C
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford