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Re: Kinrosshire birth look up please-Alexander Greig
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 03 December 14 12:16 GMT (UK) »
Dod, lucky 1855 find for the death of Andrew, listing all of Andrew & Isabel's children  :) So, the William Greig mentioned at the beginning, could have been Alexander's brother then.

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Re: Kinrosshire birth look up please-Alexander Greig
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 03 December 14 17:03 GMT (UK) »
Hello techgal etc,
     1855 Certificates are a fantastic find. Found that DC last year while working on my tree. I was checking out the Greig/Malcolm relationship because my late mother, maiden name Greig, had Malcolm as one of her middle names. No relatives on her maternal side named Malcolm, either surname or given name. Wondered if it had been passed down on the paternal Greig side. Thought Andrew Greig (married to Isabel Malcolm) and my 3xG.Grandfather William Greig might be related but there were too many Greig & Malcolm families in the Kinross area with the names William, Alexander & Andrew so I gave up. (For now!) Luckily the 1855 DC & OPR Marriage were still in my 'Viewed Images' on ScotlandsPeople.
     
     Found these on FamilySearch today.
     
          Illinois, Northern District Naturalization Index.
     Alexander M Greig. Born Scotland. Arrived New York, Aug, 1841.
     Naturalized: 18th Oct, 1852. Age: 33. (born abt 1819)
     Racine, Racine County, Wisconsin.
 
     William Greig. Born Scotland. Arrived New York, Aug, 1841.
     Naturalized: 27th Oct, 1856. Age: 40. (born abt 1816)
     Racine, Racine County, Wisconsin.

          1855 Census. Yorkville, Racine, Wisconsin.
     Alex M Greig. 3 Males & 2 Females in household. 2 Foreign born.

          1860 Census. Norway, Racine, Wisconsin.
     Alex M Greig 41 b Scotland.   (abt 1819)
     Groe       "    43 b Norway.     (abt 1817)
     Isabella   "    11 b Wisconsin.  (abt 1849)
     Andrew   "     10 b     "           (abt 1850)
     John       "       8 b     "           (abt 1852)
     William   "       4 b     "            (abt 1856)

          1880 Census. Dunkirk, Dane, Wisconsin.
     A. M. Greig 61 Farmer b Scotland.     (abt 1819)
     Grace    "   65      -      b Norway.      (abt 1815)
     Andrew  "  30       -     b Wisconsin.    (abt 1850)
     William  "  24       -      b      "            (abt 1856)

          Burial: Riverside Cemetery, Stoughton, Dane, Wisconsin. 
     Alexander M Greig. Birth: 11th Feb, 1819. Death: 12th Nov, 1896.

          1850 Census. Dover Town, Racine, Wisconsin.
     Wm. Greig 34 Farmer b Scotland.  (abt 1816)
     Lorena  "   34     -      b Norway.    (abt 1816)

          1855 Census. Dover Town, Racine, Wisconsin.
     William Greig. 1 Male & 1 Female in household. 2 Foreign born.

          1860 Census. Dover Town, Racine, Wisconsin.
     William Greig 43 b Scotland.  (abt 1817)
     Torine      "    46 b Norway.    (abt 1814)   
 
     Yes, Monica, I feel these 2 are brothers. Whether they are the sons of Andrew Greig & Isabel Malcolm might be hard to prove unless 'techgirl' can track down Death Certificates for both Alexander & William to see if parents are named. Did Alexander's children have middle names? They sometimes give a clue.
     Look forward to hearing from you.
               Regards,     Dod.
     
     
     
         
 
     
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Re: Kinrosshire birth look up please-Alexander Greig
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 03 December 14 17:32 GMT (UK) »

...Nothing is mentioned on his death record, immigration or naturalization papers.  I don't know if William is a brother or cousin...


Unfortunately, no reference to parents it seems on Alexander's US documents, except for his birth date on his gravestone which provides a hard fact for him...but we haven't found a corresponding hard fact back in Scotland to compare to so far.

Not clear whether we have the same problem for William Greig's details in the US?

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Re: Kinrosshire birth look up please-Alexander Greig
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 03 December 14 17:51 GMT (UK) »
Another excellent post Dod. :)
Lawrie name in Fife (and elsewhere) with all its various spellings.


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Re: Kinrosshire birth look up please-Alexander Greig
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 03 December 14 22:17 GMT (UK) »
Hello,
     I have now found several trees on Ancestry mistakenly naming my 3xG.Grandparents, William Greig & Janet McGrigor as the parents of Alexander Malcolm Greig. Some have posted the Marriage of Alexander M Greig & Grace Olson, on 30th March, 1848 in America, then show 1851 Scotland Census with my 2xG.Grandfather, Alexander Greig, Hand Loom Weaver, still living at Portmoak with his mother Janet, while his father, William Greig, is now a Watchmaker living in Old Deer, Aberdeenshire!!
     Nothing, so far, to say Alexander M Greig was born in Kinross-shire. Any reference to him just says born Scotland. Hope 'techgal' had a more reliable source of information than someones tree.
               Regards,     Dod.
         
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Re: Kinrosshire birth look up please-Alexander Greig
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 03 December 14 22:23 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!  thanks everyone for all of the information.  I really feel that Alexander and William are the sons of Andrew Greig and Isabel Malcolm.  The birth years match up pretty close based in the listing of Andrew's death record.  I will try to locate the children of Alexander's middle names and post them here.

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Re: Kinrosshire birth look up please-Alexander Greig
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 03 December 14 22:34 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!  thanks everyone for all of the information.  I really feel that Alexander and William are the sons of Andrew Greig and Isabel Malcolm.  The birth years match up pretty close based in the listing of Andrew's death record.  I will try to locate the children of Alexander's middle names and post them here.
Like you I'm fairly certain that Alex & Willie are the sons of Andrew & Isabel.
Admittedly It is all circumstantial but the middle name Malcolm is a good indicator as to his parents.
And well done ecksdochter for supplying all that information.
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Re: Kinrosshire birth look up please-Alexander Greig
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 03 December 14 23:30 GMT (UK) »
Hello techgal & buckhind,
     Hope the information I supplied hasn't been misleading. If Alexander was born in Kinross-shire then Andrew Greig & Isabel Malcolm are possible parents. If you have no proof he was born in Kinross-shire then he could come from any part of Scotland. The names Greig & Malcolm are pretty widespread across the country.
     I would be inclined to check incoming passenger lists, New York to see if Alexander & William arrived in the same ship. According to Alexander's Naturalization Card, he arrived Aug, 1841 at Manchester, New York. William's card just says New York. Death Certificates for both Alexander & William would be worth tracking.
     Only thing positive at the moment is that William Greig & his wife Janet McGrigor are not Alexander Malcolm Greig's parents.
     Hope you find that connection to Kinross-shire.
               Regards,     Dod.
     
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Re: Kinrosshire birth look up please-Alexander Greig
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 04 December 14 11:42 GMT (UK) »
Did Alexander and William possibily marry sisters? Both wives show are having being born in Norway. William Greig's marriage entry correspond with an entry on the index for a Torina Harlson (24 May 1850, Racine, Vol. 1, pg 134).

Wondered whether Harlson would be a spelling variant/transcription of Olsen/Olson/Oleson etc.

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