Author Topic: A Variety Artiste  (Read 1479 times)

Offline wayne69

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 201
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
A Variety Artiste
« on: Sunday 30 November 14 15:36 GMT (UK) »
Hello,
        I'm searching for information regarding the improbably named Tom Cecil Maynard Lonsdale. The 1911 census has him living in Liverpool. He was described as a Variety Artiste, born in Liverpool, c1882. I can't find him anywhere else. All help appreciated.
                    Many Thanks

Offline Milliepede

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 12,574
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: A Variety Artiste
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 30 November 14 15:42 GMT (UK) »
Could he be the Cecil Lonsdale in 1901/1891?

In 1901 he is 18 nephew born Liverpool living with the Boel family.

In 1891 he is 8 living with widowed mother Margaret and sister Eva.
Hinchliffe Huddersfield Wiltshire

Offline Barbara.H

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,759
    • View Profile
Re: A Variety Artiste
« Reply #2 on: Monday 01 December 14 22:24 GMT (UK) »
I think Tom Maynard could be the stage name of Cecil Lonsdale?  There are several mentions of a Tom Maynard in the British Newpaper archive, between about 1920-1950. He seems to have been a comedy actor and singer appearing in light opera and pantomime. One snippet mentions that he was with the Carl Rosa Opera for a while

In 1917 he placed an ad in the Liverpool Echo under 'Entertainers'
28 December 1917
"Tom Maynard, the well-known Comedian, at liberty few evenings. concerts, Smokers etc terms moderate. 162 Chatham St Liverpool"

 :) Barbara
LANCS:  Greenwood, Greenhalgh, Fishwick, Berry,
CHES/DERBYS:  Vernon
YORKS/LINCS: Watson, Stamford, Bartholomew,
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk


Offline ShaunJ

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 19,333
    • View Profile
Re: A Variety Artiste
« Reply #3 on: Monday 01 December 14 23:15 GMT (UK) »
The Stage archive site has 138 hits for "Tom Maynard".  His strapline was "the dotty one".

https://archive.thestage.co.uk/
UK Census info. Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline River Tyne Lass

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,651
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: A Variety Artiste
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 04 October 20 08:57 BST (UK) »
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/216344279/cecil-lonsdale

I know this is an old post so you may already have your answer .. but could this be the person you are seeking.  I came across this memorial for Cecil Lonsdale (Tom Maynard) at Preston Cemetery North Shields, Tyne and Wear.
Conroy, Fitzpatrick, Watson, Miller, Davis/Davies, Brown, Senior, Dodds, Grieveson, Gamesby, Simpson, Rose, Gilboy, Malloy, Dalton, Young, Saint, Anderson, Allen, McKetterick, McCabe, Drummond, Parkinson, Armstrong, McCarroll, Innes, Marshall, Atkinson, Glendinning, Fenwick, Bonner

Offline garstonite

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 10,270
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: A Variety Artiste
« Reply #5 on: Friday 09 October 20 08:16 BST (UK) »
Could he be the Cecil Lonsdale in 1901/1891?

In 1901 he is 18 nephew born Liverpool living with the Boel family.

In 1891 he is 8 living with widowed mother Margaret and sister Eva.

very interesting - they are in Canning Street in 1901 census - Residence: 42, Canning St
Liverpool (Part Of), Lancashire
..........................................
then this happens
Baptism: 21 Apr 1903 St Luke, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Cecil Lonsdale - [Child] of Margaret Lonsdale
    Abode: 42 Canning St.
    Notes: A. [Father's name not entered]
    Baptised by: F. W. Hopkins
so - has the Widow Margaret had a baby ?   or is it Tom Cecil Maynards sister - or - is it the wrong family ??? TWO Cecil Lonsdale ??
now that's a puzzler ??
....................................
Cecil Lonsdale married Helen May Sonnex in 1916 in Gravesend - June qtr during WW1
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

Offline garstonite

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 10,270
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: A Variety Artiste
« Reply #6 on: Friday 09 October 20 08:33 BST (UK) »
Cecil Lonsdale/ Helen Sonnex children

Philip H M - Liverpool 1917 marries in Birmingham 1940

Hugh C - Toxteth Park  ,LIVERPOOL 1920

J M - female - Barnet 1929
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

Offline crisane

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,181
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: A Variety Artiste
« Reply #7 on: Friday 09 October 20 08:43 BST (UK) »
Quote
Baptism: 21 Apr 1903 St Luke, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Cecil Lonsdale - [Child] of Margaret Lonsdale
    Abode: 42 Canning St.
    Notes: A. [Father's name not entered]
    Baptised by: F. W. Hopkins
so - has the Widow Margaret had a baby ?   or is it Tom Cecil Maynards sister - or - is it the wrong family ??? TWO Cecil Lonsdale ??
now that's a puzzler ??

Or was he baptised as an adult?

There is a probate 1952  for a Cecil Lonsdale /Tom Maynard or Cecil Haines. It then says see Lonsdale for Maynard. Probate to  Helen May Lonsdale, widow.


Offline garstonite

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 10,270
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: A Variety Artiste
« Reply #8 on: Friday 09 October 20 08:51 BST (UK) »
Great shout - makes a lot more sense that - and looks to be more likely - I never thought of that Crisane ....so was Cecils dad possibly Mr Maynard do you think ??? hence the Tom Cecil Maynard Lonsdale ?? intriguing  :)
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford