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Re: An actress in the family
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 02 December 14 16:04 GMT (UK) »
31/3/1890 St Philip's Bethnal Green

Thomas Lilley 27 Gen.Dealer 79 Church St father William Gen.Dealer
Mary Ann Larner 24 father John Larner Labourer same address as groom.

witnesses William Lilley & Mary Ann Olliff

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Stevens /Godfrey /Rudgley /Claridge/ Gipson /George /Bliss
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Re: An actress in the family
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 02 December 14 18:18 GMT (UK) »
I've looked at newspaper reports but although this play is listed on various occasions, I can't see any mention of the death of a member of the cast.
Bradbury (Sedgeley, Bilston, Warrington)
Cooper (Sedgeley, Bilston)
Kilner/Kilmer (Leic, Notts)
Greenfield (Liverpool)
Holyland (Anywhere and everywhere, also Holiland Holliland Hollyland)
Pryce/Price (Welshpool, Liverpool)
Rawson (Leicester)
Upton (Desford, Leics)
Partrick (Vera and George, Leicester)
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Re: An actress in the family
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 02 December 14 19:55 GMT (UK) »
At http://www.1911census.co.uk/
I think you will find Mary if you search for "Silley" in Plaistow.  Perhaps this will reveal her occupation, or who she is living with? (Doesn't seem to be with family as far as I can tell from the free index).

A possible marriage/kids/death might be:
1915 in West Ham district, Mary A Lilley to Stephen Chapman
son 1917 West Ham (Chapman/Lilley)
son 1919 St Olave  (Chapman/Lilley)
death 1922 St Olave (Mary A Chapman aged 31)
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Re: An actress in the family
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 02 December 14 20:37 GMT (UK) »
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I think you will find Mary if you search for "Silley" in Plaistow

1911 census informtion removed as it does not appear in the free indexes
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: An actress in the family
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 04 December 14 09:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi Everyone,
Thank you for all your suggestions and comments. I'll get back to you soon.

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Re: An actress in the family
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 04 December 14 21:06 GMT (UK) »
I've looked at The Stage online archives, it's a great resource but sadly no match with Mary.
Been looking hard for 'Silley' in Plaistow 1911 census but I guess I'm missing it :-( HELP PLEASE!

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Re: An actress in the family
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 04 December 14 21:25 GMT (UK) »
Please remember that we are limited as to the amount of 1911 census information we can supply from the free indexes.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=355486.0

Try this

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWXB-5PM
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Longhurst-Ealing & Capel, Abinger, Ewhurst & Ockley,
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Re: An actress in the family
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 04 December 14 22:38 GMT (UK) »
Sherrbert, often when looking for people in the theatre, you have to bare in mind that many of them used stage names. If this story is correct for Mary Ann, she may not show under her name (Mary Ann Lilley) on The Stage reviews and articles etc.

You may also need to check out Jerose's details to discount that marriage/children and death for a Mary Ann Lilley/Chapman not being the correct one...

Quote from: jorose on Tuesday 02 December 14 19:55 GMT (UK)

A possible marriage/kids/death might be:
1915 in West Ham district, Mary A Lilley to Stephen Chapman
son 1917 West Ham (Chapman/Lilley)
son 1919 St Olave  (Chapman/Lilley)
death 1922 St Olave (Mary A Chapman aged 31)

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Re: An actress in the family
« Reply #17 on: Friday 05 December 14 10:53 GMT (UK) »
I found the 'Silley' census and it's a definate maybe!

I've long considered the possibility of Mary using a stage name, makes things even harder!

As for the possible marriage, it's another definate maybe as I have so little to go on. Ordering a certificate maybe my only option as her dad's name and trade would help.

The legend also tells of Mary's coffin being draped with a Union Jack. I thought this must mean something but as far as I can tell, anyone can have that. This legend might be a myth!
Thanks folks, keep it coming!
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