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LLoyd Edward Lewis, - Birth
« on: Tuesday 02 December 14 00:22 GMT (UK) »
i am trying to find birth and family details for Lloyd Edward Lewis b abt 1867 around Forden in Montgomeryshire

I have found Lloyd Edward Lewis at age 14 in the 1881 Census.  It states he was a farm servant at Munlyn and that he was born in about 1867 in Forden Parish.  Following on from this I have him through subsequent censuses and his marriage to Kate Julia Gough at Forden Registry Office.  His marriage certificate states his father is Edward Lewis.  I also have his death certificate.

I can't seem to track down his birth and his mother, father and siblings if any.  I have searched FreeBMD.

Can anybody help on tracking him down please.
Lewis - Montgomeryshire & Shropshire
Francis - Montgomeryshire
Gough - Montgomeryshire, Shropshire
Sadler - Cambridgeshire
Mason - Southwark, London
Biggs - Southwark, London, & Buckinghamshire

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Re: LLoyd Edward Lewis, - Birth
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 02 December 14 02:52 GMT (UK) »
welcome to rc....

maybe something on this link can assist>
http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MGY/Forden/

have fun
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Re: LLoyd Edward Lewis, - Birth
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 02 December 14 08:48 GMT (UK) »
I am wondering if , for some reason, he might be the Edward Lloyd Francis, birth reg Jna/Feb/Mar 1867 in Montgomery Reg District

In 1871 is under Lloyd Francis, age 4,  with grandmother Jane Francis, living in Forden, born in Forden.

No trace in later censueses under Francis ..... maye then starts using Lewis?
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: LLoyd Edward Lewis, - Birth
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 02 December 14 10:23 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your ideas.   The idea of him changing his name to Lewis from Francis is an intriguing one. 

I do have some suspicions that there is something odd here because he and his wife were married in 1889 they were living in Chirbury but were married in Forden registry office rather than a church - I wonder why when later in life he was a devout church goer.

We do know that his wife was illegitimate but would that be enough to not have a church wedding ?
Lewis - Montgomeryshire & Shropshire
Francis - Montgomeryshire
Gough - Montgomeryshire, Shropshire
Sadler - Cambridgeshire
Mason - Southwark, London
Biggs - Southwark, London, & Buckinghamshire


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Re: LLoyd Edward Lewis, - Birth
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 02 December 14 11:26 GMT (UK) »
Does not usually.

Going back to the Francis child, seems he was christened  Mar 1867

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KC14-GM9

You may find someone on here is able to check out what, if anything, the register says for his parents.

He may be a red herring, but cant find anyone else that even remotedly fits the bill.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: LLoyd Edward Lewis, - Birth
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 02 December 14 21:37 GMT (UK) »
Hello Paul, is this your ancestor Lloyd Lewis ?

https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3ALloyd~%20%2Bsurname%3ALewis~%20%2Bbirth_place%3AForden~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1860-1870~%20%2Bfather_givenname%3AEdward~

Lloyd Lewis
Head
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth:   1867   Forden, Montgomeryshire
residence:   31 March 1901   Worthen (Salop), Montgomeryshire, Wales

Lloyd Lewis
England and Wales Census, 1911
birth:      Forden Parish, Montgomeryshire
residence:   1911   Worthen, , Montgomeryshire, Wales
Salop Adams,Backhouse,Bailey,Carter,Cartwright,Chambre,Chettoe,Cooper,Fewtrell,Gardner,Greenhouse,Gwilliam, Humphrey,Jenks,Morrey,Otherton,Parry,Pickerall,Powell,Pugh,Reeves,Reynolds,Roberts,Rogers,Salter, Whittakers,Worrall,Wright,Yale

Mont. Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley Prichard
Battersea Young
Brechin Allan,Barrie,Duthie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Thomson,Valentine,Watt
Chelsea Coates,Smith
Emneth Bennington
Wisbech Bell,Briggs,Willcock

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Re: LLoyd Edward Lewis, - Birth
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 02 December 14 21:49 GMT (UK) »
One thought that crossed my mind about Forden was the heavy emphasis on discussion regarding the participation of the workhouse there...   Could the area be overly poor and families just couldnt survive...???  anyways just a thought....

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Re: LLoyd Edward Lewis, - Birth
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 04 December 14 16:41 GMT (UK) »
A link below for Kate Julia Gough.

https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22Kate%20Julia%22~%20%2Bsurname%3AGough~%20%2Bbirth_place%3AForden~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1860-1870~

Kate Julia Gough
Wales, Montgomeryshire, Parish Registers, 1538-1912
baptism:   9 November 1866   Welshpool, Montgomeryshire, Wales



Salop Adams,Backhouse,Bailey,Carter,Cartwright,Chambre,Chettoe,Cooper,Fewtrell,Gardner,Greenhouse,Gwilliam, Humphrey,Jenks,Morrey,Otherton,Parry,Pickerall,Powell,Pugh,Reeves,Reynolds,Roberts,Rogers,Salter, Whittakers,Worrall,Wright,Yale

Mont. Davies,Edwards,Hughes,Lewis,Maddox,Mapp,Pritchard
Almeley Prichard
Battersea Young
Brechin Allan,Barrie,Duthie,Hardie,Mathewson,Mitchell,Strachan,Thomson,Valentine,Watt
Chelsea Coates,Smith
Emneth Bennington
Wisbech Bell,Briggs,Willcock