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Re: The Derby Leather Lace Co
« Reply #9 on: Monday 08 December 14 15:26 GMT (UK) »
In  a report of the case in the Sheffield Daily Telegraph - Monday 20 August 1900 Benjamin Warburton is described as a lace manufacturer.
In the Derby Mercury - Wednesday 22 August 1900 report his wife claimed he deserted her in July 1894, when he eloped with another woman by whom he had several children. A Separation Order with costs, was granted.

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Re: The Derby Leather Lace Co
« Reply #10 on: Monday 08 December 14 15:27 GMT (UK) »
John Harry/Henry's wife died in 1949 - her address is same as JH's was and probate to same dtrs also Ethel May Fletcher (wife of Samuel Arthur Fletcher) she left £4825. 17s 5d so she probably inherited money from her husband
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Re: The Derby Leather Lace Co
« Reply #11 on: Monday 08 December 14 16:00 GMT (UK) »
Thanks to everyone, I'm overwhelmed with the response. What a cad, it was thought that we came down on the J H Warburton side; now to find about this company and what happened to it. My father, born 1923, said that they led austere lives with his father, Benjamin, dying early leaving him to be the head of the household when he was 14 I think. Wonder if the Canada story was true as Benjamin was 'lost' for a few years.
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Re: The Derby Leather Lace Co
« Reply #12 on: Monday 08 December 14 16:53 GMT (UK) »
1910 US census (Boston),
Benjamin Warburton, aged 56, with wife Eliza (33) and daughter Lillian (13) - emigration 1899(him) 1900(them)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M223-HYD
1920, Eliza (widowed) and Lillian in Waterton, Mass:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MX1K-MJT

This may be his death in 1913:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N47R-BH5
Note that he is listed as a "leatherworker"
Parents Benjamin and Sarah, ring a bell?

http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/
 shows Eliza, 21, and Lillian, 4, arriving from Dewsbury in Dec 1900 on the Etrutia. Heading to husband in Newark.
also a B Warburton from "Darby" (Derby on image, I think), age indistinct, arriving in Oct 1900 on the Germanic.

And in May 1900 we have:
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He was formerly in business in Derby as a leather lace cutter, but disapeared in 1895, and was not again heard of until a few days ago, when he was aprehended on a warrant. He was now in business at Dewsbury.

Would be quite possible for the family to mix up "Canada" with somewhere like Boston (maybe other members of the family went there?)
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Re: The Derby Leather Lace Co
« Reply #13 on: Monday 08 December 14 16:54 GMT (UK) »
In the Derby Daily Telegraph - Thursday 29 January 1942.
Miss W. Warburton and Miss E. Warburton, of the Derby Leather Co., Ltd., have received a letter from the headquarters of the Merchant Navy Comforts Service, thanking them for their gift of £2 2s.
In the Yorkshire Post and Leeds Intelligencer - Saturday 15 November 1947 there is a for sale by auction notice of the Excelsior Works, Agard Street, in the occupation of the Derby Leather Co. Ltd.

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Re: The Derby Leather Lace Co
« Reply #14 on: Monday 08 December 14 17:13 GMT (UK) »
There's a marriage for a Benjamin Warburton 1895 Haslingdon, on same page Eliza Pilkington.
Can't see them in 1901.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: The Derby Leather Lace Co
« Reply #15 on: Monday 08 December 14 17:44 GMT (UK) »
Suspicious set of births while looking for any marriage to "Eliza" or birth for Lillian, under "Burton"
Lilian (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J752-HQ1)
Claud Morriss (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JQHT-3F7 ) - Claude Maurice on freebmd, no obivious mariage/death
Edna May (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JSZV-8KM )

These all seem to disappear by 1901.

Lilian may have married Thomas Colbert in MA:
1930:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XQPY-1XL
is this "Eliza"? As Eleanor, perhaps attached to wrong household (the wife in this one doesn't have a mother b. England)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XQPY-1X5
1940 the Colberts with  "E Eleanor Carpenter", mother (matches the "Burton" christening with mother Eliza Eleanor)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K4NM-NCZ

The closest match for "Eliza Eleanor" would be Eliza Eleanor Cunningham b. 1877 Derby.
There are also some possible related items for the kids under this name:
"Edna May Burton" b. 1899 may have died in 1900 in Dewsbury as "Edna Mary Cunningham", aged "0"
and "Claude Maurice Burton" b. 1898 similary is found in 1900 in Dewsbury as "Claud Maurice Cunningham", aged 2.   (there are no births for these kids under "Cunningham").

Eliza herself seems to have had a rough life
born illegitimate to Eleanor Cunningham in Derby, 1877:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NJNG-NF2
her mother may have married Ellis Stevenson soon after, but it looks as if he was widowed by 1881:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XQ9Y-Y45
"Eliza E C Stevenson" here is probably our Eliza Eleanor.

She seems to have used a combination of these names in 1913 when she remarried in Boston to William Carpenter:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N46X-V2W
here says "Ellis Stevenson" and "Eleanor Cunningham" are her parents, she is widow Warburton.

Why she then reverted to "Warburton" for two censuses running before going back to "Carpenter" in 1940, I don't know, maybe William went awol?
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