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Re: My German Block
« Reply #27 on: Friday 12 December 14 03:32 GMT (UK) »
  Charles he was buried Independant section of new ballarat cemetery and Emma was buried in a grave belonged to a family called Heazelwood (no idea who they're or how if related) with two young boys in the Protestant section.

Chsrles and his kids are buried in one grave.

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For your interest

Charles PATTERSON is buried with 4 others, not all his children-

Louisa Caroline  - his daughter 1878

 
PATTERSON Louisa Caroline
Father Charles
Mother Emma WARD
Age  17M
Birth Place  BALL
Year  1878
#4054




Frank Gordon - his grandson
 
PATTERSON Frank Gordon
Father: Patterson Ernt
Mother: Gina Charl COLLINS
 Aged Days
At  Ballt
Year 1901
#8259

Alice PATTERSON his daughter. When she died her infant son died with her.

PATTERSON Alice
Father Chas
Mother  Emma WARD
Age 18
At SPOL
Year  1887
#4244


The child has the give names Montague Edgar on the birth and death registrations, but appears as Edmund on the Cemetery Register

PATTERSON Montague Edgar
Father  U
Alice PATTERSON
Age  3W
At  SPOL
Year  1887
#4245

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Re: My German Block
« Reply #28 on: Friday 12 December 14 03:48 GMT (UK) »
Emma was buried in a grave belonged to a family called Heazelwood (no idea who they're or how if related) with two young boys in the Protestant section.

 
Buried new ballarat cemetery ballarat.

For your interest

Regarding the child named Hedley Wilbert HEAZELWOOD buried with Emma PATTERSON.

He was the ex-nuptial child of Ethel Hazelwood


HEAZLEWOOD Headley Wilbert
Father Unknown
Mother Ethel HEAZLEWOOD
Age  9
Death Place  Spol
Year  1908
#3817

In 1903 Ethel HAZELWOOD lived at 75 Bridge Rd Ballarat E. and was a laundress.

The Burial Register shows

HEAZELWOOD, Hedley Wilbert. Buried 20/2/1908
Last address Albert St. Sebastopol  Adopted son of PATTERSON


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Re: My German Block
« Reply #29 on: Friday 12 December 14 05:32 GMT (UK) »
 :) Hello all,

Sorry for the delayed reply,errands I had to do, but I am here now.
I don't have Birth Certificates of the children, most of what  i have has been found by online
resources and I have got information off the BDM site without ordering a actual certificate.

A cousin of my husbands ( as these are his relatives) got the birth certificate of the eldest child,
Ellen Maud but apparantly no clues.

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Re: My German Block
« Reply #30 on: Friday 12 December 14 05:41 GMT (UK) »
This is what else I know...

I know who was buried with Charles and their relationship/s to him.I guess I shouldn't of put that
he was buried with "ALL" his kids, that wasn't really what I mean't...I just said that so that I didn't have to list them all I guess..sorry about that.

I have a copy of the Cemetery records/index from off the Cds.

I had assumed that The baby referred to as Edmund belonged to Alice Dora, but I don't know how some of Charles' children died..I'm afraid I'm not very good at using some of the sites etc where you find Inquests etc.

I have also got help on some of my research over the years from others that have looked up things for me etc.

I found Ethels' name etc as the mother of one of the boys Emma was buried with..but couldn't find much else.

Kind Regards

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Re: My German Block
« Reply #31 on: Friday 12 December 14 05:46 GMT (UK) »
mmm good find...So Hedley Wilbert was a Adopted son..mmm thats interesting,i hadn't come across that before anywhere mmm.

I wonder which Patterson adopted him??.

mmm wonder if it was indeed Charles and Emma or one of Charles children or siblings that Adopted Hedley?..

And I have no idea of the relationship between Ethel and the family either.

And I wonder what the relationship is of the other child buried there as well?.
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Scotland-hardy,McRae,Morris,walker,burnside.>Glasgow to Australia.

Ireland-Jobson,plunkett,

Germany>Ballarat vic >? To Patterson>miner.

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Re: My German Block
« Reply #32 on: Friday 12 December 14 05:48 GMT (UK) »
mmm and all these "Unknown" fathers!.. :-[
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Germany>Ballarat vic >? To Patterson>miner.

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« Reply #33 on: Friday 12 December 14 06:47 GMT (UK) »
Chsrles and his kids are buried in one grave.

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This is what else I know...

I know who was buried with Charles and their relationship/s to him.I guess I shouldn't of put that
he was buried with "ALL" his kids, that wasn't really what I mean't...I just said that so that I didn't have to list them all I guess..sorry about that.
 

I had assumed that The baby referred to as Edmund belonged to Alice Dora, but I don't know how some of Charles' children died..I'm afraid I'm not very good at using some of the sites etc where you find Inquests etc.

 

 Kind Regards

Overton72.

You did not say ALL his kids.

I have only filled out the relationships for you in a proper way.
If you let go of accuracy in family history, you will begin to assume things and that is not the correct way to establish facts

If I needed to know all the names of all his children, I would ask you or look them up for myself.

Now there is no need to assume the child Edmund PATTERSON (Montague Edgar PATTERSON) was the child of Alice. The registrations show it clearly and their death index numbers are consecutive.

mmm good find...So Hedley Wilbert was a Adopted son..mmm thats interesting,i hadn't come across that before anywhere mmm.

I wonder which Patterson adopted him??.

mmm wonder if it was indeed Charles and Emma or one of Charles children or siblings that Adopted Hedley?..

And I have no idea of the relationship between Ethel and the family either.

And I wonder what the relationship is of the other child buried there as well?.

There is possibly no relationship between Emma PATTERSON and the child Lawrence Arthur LOCKETT.  It is possible that it was just a re-using of cemetery space.
His mother Gwenillian LOCKETT was born at Ballarat.

PARRY Gwenllian
Father  Wm Jas
Mother Charl WILSON
Birth Place  BALLARAT
Year  1905
Reg.   422

The child died at the address of the parents of Gwenillian. Gwenillian was married and lived according to electoral rolls, in Gippsland.



I wonder which Patterson adopted him??.

mmm wonder if it was indeed Charles and Emma or one of Charles children or siblings that Adopted Hedley?..

 

 


Charles PATTERSON died before the child Hedley was born, so he was not an adopting parent.

There was no legislation regarding adoption in Vic at that time.

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Re: My German Block
« Reply #34 on: Friday 12 December 14 06:54 GMT (UK) »
mmm thank-you for that..weird..in regards to how Emma was buried and those with her.

i wonder then if lockett was known then to the Heazelwood clan..weird very weird!.

I wonder than if Emma adopted Hedley?..or maybe one of Emmas kids did?. Emma died in Ballarat in 1913.
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Ireland-Jobson,plunkett,

Germany>Ballarat vic >? To Patterson>miner.

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« Reply #35 on: Friday 12 December 14 07:16 GMT (UK) »
Chsrles and his kids are buried in one grave.

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This is what else I know...

I know who was buried with Charles and their relationship/s to him.I guess I shouldn't of put that
he was buried with "ALL" his kids, that wasn't really what I mean't...I just said that so that I didn't have to list them all I guess..sorry about that.
 

I had assumed that The baby referred to as Edmund belonged to Alice Dora, but I don't know how some of Charles' children died..I'm afraid I'm not very good at using some of the sites etc where you find Inquests etc.

 

 Kind Regards

Overton72.

You did not say ALL his kids.

I have only filled out the relationships for you in a proper way.
If you let go of accuracy in family history, you will begin to assume things and that is not the correct way to establish facts

If I needed to know all the names of all his children, I would ask you or look them up for myself.

Now there is no need to assume the child Edmund PATTERSON (Montague Edgar PATTERSON) was the child of Alice. The registrations show it clearly and their death index numbers are consecutive.

mmm good find...So Hedley Wilbert was a Adopted son..mmm thats interesting,i hadn't come across that before anywhere mmm.

I wonder which Patterson adopted him??.

mmm wonder if it was indeed Charles and Emma or one of Charles children or siblings that Adopted Hedley?..

And I have no idea of the relationship between Ethel and the family either.

And I wonder what the relationship is of the other child buried there as well?.

There is possibly no relationship between Emma PATTERSON and the child Lawrence Arthur LOCKETT.  It is possible that it was just a re-using of cemetery space.
His mother Gwenillian LOCKETT was born at Ballarat.

PARRY Gwenllian
Father  Wm Jas
Mother Charl WILSON
Birth Place  BALLARAT
Year  1905
Reg.   422

The child died at the address of the parents of Gwenillian. Gwenillian was married and lived according to electoral rolls, in Gippsland.



I wonder which Patterson adopted him??.

mmm wonder if it was indeed Charles and Emma or one of Charles children or siblings that Adopted Hedley?..

 

 


Charles PATTERSON died before the child Hedley was born, so he was not an adopting parent.

There was no legislation regarding adoption in Vic at that time.

Sue
England ,wardrobe,buzza /Buzzo >Penzance ,St Hilary,Cornwall.
Richards,Roberts,Parrish,Paris,Norton,knight,. Whear,Sparnon,squires, Fenwick ,

Scotland-hardy,McRae,Morris,walker,burnside.>Glasgow to Australia.

Ireland-Jobson,plunkett,

Germany>Ballarat vic >? To Patterson>miner.