1891 Census Everton area of Liverpool...missing pages?

[Gadget]

Here's a general link to the history:  http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Liverpool/

Workhouses are  listed in the census - usually as a separate ED, so should be on FindMyPast. 

I see he was a 'rigger of ships' on a later census - could he have crossed the Mersey and be somewhere on the Wirral or Manchester ship canal  or................ 


Gadget

[tom mix]

Much appreciated, Gadget.

I have searched for the Cahills in 1891 throughout the whole of the Census without luck. If they were over the water or on the Canal, they should have shown up. I will return to FindMyPast and pursue the Workhouses.
Thanks
Alan

[andycand]

Hi

The workhouse that covers both Everton and Bootle is West Derby http://www.workhouses.org.uk/WestDerby/ but searching the census should still have picked them up.

I'm sure a number of suggestions have been made on various threads but I wouldn't rule out emigration particularly if there are several years between positive sightings. It is surprising how many people emigrated and then returned to the UK.

Andy

[tom mix]

Andy,
Thanks. There is a 5 year gap between 1888, birth of child, and 1893 when I can find the mother acting as a god-mother at a Catholic Baptism in Liverpool.

James had an Irish mother  and Sarah had a Welsh father. Both dead, but it's possible they were visiting outside England.
Alan

[Gadget]

I have searched for the Cahills in 1891 throughout the whole of the Census without luck. If they were over the water or on the Canal, they should have shown up. I will return to FindMyPast and pursue the Workhouses.
Thanks
Alan

Hi Alan

Did you search for just initials? e.g. J* C*; S* C*; S* W*; etc.

I  note from the other thread that James's mother was also missing from the 1891, although she died 2 years afterwards.

Did they have relatives in Ireland?

I've found another thread of yours- will read it through 

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=378800.0



Gadget

[Gadget]

I assume that you've seen this death entry:

Sarah Ellen Cahill, Dec q, 1894, West Derby, 8b, 338   Aged 0. 

Do you have the certificate?


Gadget

[tom mix]

Morning Gadget!

I have both the death and birth cert. of the Sarah Ellen Cahill you entered. I was hoping the age had been put down incorrectly. However she was the daughter of a Michael Cahill of 4 Siddons St Litherland. She died at 5 hours of age from a "Premature Birth. Insufficient vitality".

Just in case you keep looking, I also have a Marriage for a Sarah Ellen Cahill to John Connor in Kirkdale Liverpool in 1910. I thought she may have re-married. Sorry, but it is not her.

I will follow up your suggestion using just initials and * .
I am not aware of any relatives in Ireland. But would not discount the possibility.

James Cahill did have a brother, Richard, born in Liverpool.
I am pretty sure he appears on the 1891 Census living at 49 Orry St Liverpool with his wife Mary Kate who was born in Co Wexford.
In the 1901 Census Richard & Mary are living at 21 Ascot St Liverpool. Ascot St had been an address used on James and Sarah's Marriage Cert. in 1887.

Many thanks for your interest.

Alan

[kismet]

Hi.  Just found your post from 2014 during a Google Search and wanted to say that I, too, had a problem with missing parts of the 1891 Census for Liverpool some years ago.  My search was for my great grandfather's shop at 141 Copperas Hill.  At that time I spoke to a very helpful lady (from Liverpool council offices if I remember correctly) and, although she didn't believe me at first, she checked it herself and confirmed that that particular part of the hill was missing.  She kindly sent me a page of Gores 1891 Liverpool Directory which does have the listing. 

[tom mix]

Thanks Kismet,

Just goes to show you that you should never give up in this game.
But 6 years down the track and I am still looking for James Thomas, Sarah Ellen and child Ellen (Helen?) Cahill.
I assume they were living around the Ascot/Epsom Streets area of Bootle/Everton.

Alan