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Death notice in newspaper?
« on: Tuesday 30 December 14 23:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
I have just found on a death certificate that my husband's ancestor James Carruthers died as a result of an accident in 1923, he died in the back of an ambulance after surviving for 2 hours. This happened in Maybole and he was living in Girvan at the time. I'm wondering if there would be any newspaper records of the accident, I don't know what happened, and where would I find the newspapers?
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Re: Death notice in newspaper?
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 30 December 14 23:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi Nerys ,
The British Newspaper Archive might and I stress might be of interest www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk.
or Google Newspaper Archive  - has Glasgow Herald .
Other local newspapers such as Ayrshire Post are not online (to my knowledge) and are held either at the Ayrshire Archives in Ayr or at Burns Monument Centre Kilmarnock , Ayrshire.   
Hope you find what you are looking for.
Looby :)

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Re: Death notice in newspaper?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 31 December 14 00:01 GMT (UK) »
A puzzle also to do with James Carruthers.
Also on the death Certificate is something that's puzzling me  :o

within the margin is written : Result of precognition. See Reg
                                               Exr.  Entry  Vid II, page 229
                                               1st February 1924

Does anyone have any idea what this might mean or where I might find help in understanding what it means?
Kind Regards
Nerys
Morris - Gwytherin/Llangernyw/Pandy Tudur
Blore - Efenechtyd/Clocaenog
Bloor - Cwm/Newmarket Wales
Price - Llangwm, Poulton cum Seacomb/Bebington
Roberts - Llanelidan - 'Pantrwth' Eyarth, Liverpool, Sheffield, Llanrwst
Roberts - Brookhouse Denbigh, Bontuchel
Williams - Abergele
Hughes - Llanfairtalhaiarn
Jones - Llangynhafal

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Re: Death notice in newspaper?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 31 December 14 00:03 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Looby, I will look tomorrow first in newspaper archive or I might be able to get in touch with Ayrshire Archives.
Best wishes
Nerys
Morris - Gwytherin/Llangernyw/Pandy Tudur
Blore - Efenechtyd/Clocaenog
Bloor - Cwm/Newmarket Wales
Price - Llangwm, Poulton cum Seacomb/Bebington
Roberts - Llanelidan - 'Pantrwth' Eyarth, Liverpool, Sheffield, Llanrwst
Roberts - Brookhouse Denbigh, Bontuchel
Williams - Abergele
Hughes - Llanfairtalhaiarn
Jones - Llangynhafal


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Re: Death notice in newspaper?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 31 December 14 00:06 GMT (UK) »
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=GGgVawPscysC&dat=19140810&b_mode=2

Looks like all of 1923 available for Glasgow Herald online. If you know date of death you might find something reported - then again depending on the circumstances of your ancestors death it may not have made this newspaper  :-\
Have you looked at the Death Entry on Scotlands People website? Was there an entry on The Register of Corrected Entries?

Looby :)

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Re: Death notice in newspaper?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 31 December 14 00:13 GMT (UK) »
Nerys -
You need to log back into Scotlands People and view the death registration again. There should be a red box on the right hand side of screen with the words " VIEW RCE ( 1 credit)" . If you have a credit to use and click on the icon it will open the Register of Corrected Entries - this may give you a little more info :-\
This was completed after a death certificate was issued and more info came to light or something that was initially recorded was changed i.e. time of death/place of death etc.

Looby :)

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Re: Death notice in newspaper?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 31 December 14 10:32 GMT (UK) »
A puzzle also to do with James Carruthers.
Also on the death Certificate is something that's puzzling me  :o

within the margin is written : Result of precognition. See Reg
                                               Exr.  Entry  Vid II, page 229
                                               1st February 1924

Does anyone have any idea what this might mean or where I might find help in understanding what it means?
Kind Regards
Nerys

Due to the circumstances of the death there would have been a full report to the Procurator Fiscal who would then have formally interviewed witnesses (the Precognition) - As previously said check to see if there was an RCE made (occasionally they give lots of information but sometimes they disappoint)

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Re: Death notice in newspaper?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 31 December 14 15:47 GMT (UK) »
Thank you both for your help  :), I looked at the RCE and it did indeed shed light on what caused James' death, a mining accident at Killochan Coal Pit, something else for me to try and look up.
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Nerys
Morris - Gwytherin/Llangernyw/Pandy Tudur
Blore - Efenechtyd/Clocaenog
Bloor - Cwm/Newmarket Wales
Price - Llangwm, Poulton cum Seacomb/Bebington
Roberts - Llanelidan - 'Pantrwth' Eyarth, Liverpool, Sheffield, Llanrwst
Roberts - Brookhouse Denbigh, Bontuchel
Williams - Abergele
Hughes - Llanfairtalhaiarn
Jones - Llangynhafal

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Re: Death notice in newspaper?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 31 December 14 21:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi cnerys,

I had a look at Scottish Mining website, they have a report from the Scotsman Newspaper of the accident that killed James Carruthers, 6 Hillview, Bourtree, Girvan. Click in link below,


http://www.scottishmining.co.uk/333.html

Tom
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