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Griffiths Valuations - can someone explain
« on: Wednesday 31 December 14 05:30 GMT (UK) »
Can someone please explain the usefulness of the griffiths valuations?  Are they only useful once you are expecting to find a person in a certain place, as further evidence?  Do they provide anything on the documents to prove it is your 'John Doe' and not some other 'John Doe'?  I've found plenty of griffiths valueations over the months that match my relatives names and general location, but never been able to say difinitively 'this one is my relative' because I don't see what detail is provided that I can do so.

Anyway hoping someone can shed light as to how to make the most of these documents.
Angela x
Angela, Perth, West Australia.

Harrison: Garston (L'pool), Dublin, Athlone, (Irl), Madras/Chennai and Burma (British India/India) and Sth Africa, and Australia.
Hart: Garston and Woolton (UK), Roscommon (Irl).
McC(h)rystal: Garston, Wigan, Desertmartin (Nrthn Irl), Canada, USA, Australia
Miller: Garston and ?Ireland/?Wales
Jones: Garston and ?Ireland/?Wales
Boyle: (Derry, Irl)
Gill: Garston L'pool UK, and Ireland.
Cannon: Woolton and Roscommon
Callaghan: Unknown.
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Re: Griffiths Valuations - can someone explain
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 31 December 14 09:05 GMT (UK) »
While Griffith's Valuation cannot identify a particular person it can be used to identify a particular holding. Using the associated maps you can see the location and using the Valuation Revision Books you can trace the same property to c1930 by which time there will be other resources available.
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Re: Griffiths Valuations - can someone explain
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 31 December 14 09:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi Angela and Aghadowey,

I have asked myself the same question, and didn't realise that you could follow through with the Valuation Revision Books.  Can you tell me where these Valuation Revision Books are available?  Online? 
McNab, Kenney, Johnstone, Carrigan, (Cargan, Kirgan, Corrigan), Toll, Tracey, McNulty,  Reilly, Maguire, Loughlin, Banks, McGonagle, Forsyth, McDonald, Michael,  Kennedy, Bagnell, Cronan, Dunleavy, McMullan. -  Glasgow, Ireland, British Columbia Canada, Manchester New Hampshire USA.

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Re: Griffiths Valuations - can someone explain
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 31 December 14 09:46 GMT (UK) »
Just answered my own question - they are available on Microfilm, via LDS, but also via PRONI - got link through Google search.
McNab, Kenney, Johnstone, Carrigan, (Cargan, Kirgan, Corrigan), Toll, Tracey, McNulty,  Reilly, Maguire, Loughlin, Banks, McGonagle, Forsyth, McDonald, Michael,  Kennedy, Bagnell, Cronan, Dunleavy, McMullan. -  Glasgow, Ireland, British Columbia Canada, Manchester New Hampshire USA.


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Re: Griffiths Valuations - can someone explain
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 31 December 14 09:50 GMT (UK) »
The ones for the Northern Ireland counties only are availble at PRONI but also online here-
http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/val12b.htm
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Re: Griffiths Valuations - can someone explain
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 31 December 14 11:08 GMT (UK) »
2 questions for aghadowey if I may.  :)

On the 1st Revision book for Ballyalbanagh http://applications.proni.gov.uk/dcal_proni_val12b/ImageResult.aspx Image2 I have my gt gt grandfather William Forsythe the first entry on the page, but underneath in a different pen another name. I'm looking for when he left Ballyalbanagh is this a possible change of tenant?

Same book Image9 I have Robert Moore on 48 and 49 is it the same man (gt gt gt grandfather) on both?  Also I can't make head nor tail of the notations in the side column, can you help?

Many thanks in advance.  :)
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman

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Re: Griffiths Valuations - can someone explain
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 31 December 14 11:19 GMT (UK) »
Can't help with revision books but this is a very good piece explaining what can be found in the Valuation lists
http://www.leitrim-roscommon.com/GRIFFITH/Griffiths.PDF

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Re: Griffiths Valuations - can someone explain
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 31 December 14 11:33 GMT (UK) »
On the 1st Revision book for Ballyalbanagh http://applications.proni.gov.uk/dcal_proni_val12b/ImageResult.aspx Image2 I have my gt gt grandfather William Forsythe the first entry on the page, but underneath in a different pen another name. I'm looking for when he left Ballyalbanagh is this a possible change of tenant?

Brilliant I think I've sussed it, there's a notation in the right hand column - 1865 - that looks good to me!
Ireland, Co Antrim: Kerr; Hollinger; Forsythe; Moore
Ireland, Co Louth: Carson; Leslie
Ireland, Co Kerry: Ferris
Scotland, Perthshire/Glasgow:  Stewart
England, Devon/Cornwall: Ferris, Gasser/Jasser/Jesser, Norman

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Re: Griffiths Valuations - can someone explain
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 31 December 14 11:36 GMT (UK) »
2 questions for aghadowey if I may.  :)

On the 1st Revision book for Ballyalbanagh http://applications.proni.gov.uk/dcal_proni_val12b/ImageResult.aspx Image2 I have my gt gt grandfather William Forsythe the first entry on the page, but underneath in a different pen another name. I'm looking for when he left Ballyalbanagh is this a possible change of tenant?

Same book Image9 I have Robert Moore on 48 and 49 is it the same man (gt gt gt grandfather) on both?  Also I can't make head nor tail of the notations in the side column, can you help?

Many thanks in advance.  :)

Ballyalbanagh
1. William Forsythe > ? [can't read name] in 1863 > Alexander Mackey in 1865
Note: William Forsythe could have died or merely moved to a different place around 1863

48/49 48 lists House offices and land but 49 lists cottiers house & land so could be 2 separate Robert Moores- often there will be a name in brackets next to each name to differentiate between two.

What notations in the 'side columns' do you mean?
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