Hemming/George family in London - maternal side

[jennifer c]

Do you have details for marriage of William, can supply if needed.

Jennifer

[LindseyB]

Sorry, Jennifer, I'm still here, but missed page 2 

Which William?  My grandfather?  I have that marriage, thank you.

[jennifer c]

It does seem a large coincidence that you are looking for a birth certificate for an Alice George born Wandsworth c.1895 and a family possession is a birth certificate that fits exactly!!

I have looked for a Alice  with mother Jane on the census but unlikely they would have been together if the mother was unmarried, child could be with family.

Have found a Alice George 14 born Newington niece in the 1881 census with a William & Charlotte Buckley. But no proof if it could be her?

Jennifer

[LindseyB]

I'd "accepted" that Alice Elizabeth George (name on grandfather's birth) was the one born 1870 in MEOT to William George and Mary Ann Goldsborough as it was the only Alice Elizabeth George born around the same time, but having been given this pack of information from a newly found arm of the family, they have Alice George (no Elizabeth) born Wandsworth which fits the later censuses.  One of John Thomas and William Frederick's sisters was called Alice Jane Hemming so another pointer towards mother Jane?  But, of course, whilst William was a common name back then, I'd taken William as a name to be passed onto my grandfather.   

[pinefamily]

The next step is to look at your great grandparents' marriage certificate, to see whether there is a father's name for Alice. Now I know it was common practice to make up a father, or to put a stepfather, but it's a start.
Have you looked at Jane possibly marrying after Alice's birth?

[LindseyB]

Hi pinefamily, thanks for reading.

I've sent off for the marriage so am hopeful that might throw something up.  The Alice George to Jane George in 1867 in Wandsworth sounds great, but it's the addition of Elizabeth that's throwing everything into confusion. 

A Jane George with no parent, year of birth or place of birth is difficult to work with ...

Really frustrating 

[pinefamily]

It was very common for our ancestors to add and remove names. Both of my grandmothers "gave" themselves a third christian name in later life, one after her own grandmother. One of my great grandmothers was always known as Annie, or Hannah, to her family. Even my grandmother told that was her mother's name when I started out in family history. Her real name was Harriet, Annie was her own mother's name.

[LindseyB]

OK, thanks for that.  Fingers crossed for the marriage certificate.

Happy New Year to you.

[pinefamily]

And a Happy New Year to you too! 

Apart from the marriage certificate, you probably need to find Alice and Jane in the 1871 and 1881 censuses. Had a quick look on FreeBMD; there doesn't seem to be an obvious Jane George marrying after Alice's birth.