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Kirwan/mcdonough
« on: Friday 02 January 15 05:30 GMT (UK) »
I will be very grateful if anyone able to find a marriage record ca 1864 for Dennis Kirwan and Mary McDonough. also wonder if she died between 1864 and 1871, {she is not on the 1871 census}.
Thanks  Gwen
Lacy/Lacey Ireland & Liverpool
Finnan Liverpool
McDonough Liverpool
Riseley England/Victoria,Australia
Hood England/Victoria Australia
Baglin England/Tasmania & Victoria Australia
Sroull Pollockshaws/Glasgow
Sinclair Pollockshaws/Glasgow
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Re: Kirwan/mcdonough
« Reply #1 on: Friday 02 January 15 06:06 GMT (UK) »
Denis Kerwan marriage to Mary Mcdonogh
13 Oct 1864  St Anthony Catholic Church Liverpool
Parents Names   Peter and Anne Kerwan - Mary Doyle
Witnesses John Laccie Mary Doyle
No details re age/occupation given

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Re: Kirwan/mcdonough
« Reply #2 on: Friday 02 January 15 06:23 GMT (UK) »
The only Denis Kirwan I can see in Liverpool in 1871 does have a wife Mary

Dennis Kirwan 55 Wicklow,Ireland Dock Labourer
Mary Kirwan 45 Sligo, Ireland
Mary Kirwan 6 Liverpool

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Edit - See from your previous thread that this is not your family http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=573360.msg4256711#msg4256711

FreeBMD has a possible death for Mary Kirwan age 27  Mar Qtr 1867  Liverpool 8b 15


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Re: Kirwan/mcdonough
« Reply #3 on: Friday 02 January 15 08:57 GMT (UK) »
I will be very grateful if anyone able to find a marriage record ca 1864 for Dennis Kirwan and Mary McDonough. also wonder if she died between 1864 and 1871, {she is not on the 1871 census}.
Thanks  Gwen
http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co.uk/liverpoolrcmarriages/marriages.php
1864 ref No 1239 St Anthony  Denis Kirwan to Mary McDonogh    REQUEST FORM
Click on REQUEST FORM = £3 TO PURCHASE THIS RECORD

this is an example of details on these certs
http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co.uk/liverpoolrcmarriages/1874-595.pdf
all you get is bride and groom name - fathers names - addresses
good luck

ADDED....on the other link Mary McDonogh is 20 in 1861 census - and the death of  Mary Kirwan in 1867  aged 27  that Kay has found ........age fits perfect - looks like your Mary McDonogh / Kirwan to me ?
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Re: Kirwan/mcdonough
« Reply #4 on: Friday 02 January 15 17:07 GMT (UK) »
The RC image is available on Ancestry in Liverpool libraries on the PCs via Digital Library then go into Ancestry. Mary's parents are recorded as 'Michael and Mary' not 'Mary Doyle' the name 'Doyle' is crossed out and 'Michael and' has been added so 'Mary Doyle' must have been a mistake she was a witness not a parent.


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Re: Kirwan/mcdonough
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 03 January 15 02:54 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou everyone for your help, much of the info matches, some dates do not, but maybe ages on census are not always spot on.
From what i have gained from this query. Hyperthetically the following maybe my Mary:=

My Mary Lacy, b Ireland 1838 to Roger and Elinor/Ellen,
m1 Edward McDonough 1858 he died 1859, they had a dau Mary Ellen/Ellen b 1859,
m2 Dennis Kirwin 1864, Mary posssibly died in 1867
!871 census Dennis Kirwin and his step dau , Mary Ellen/Ellen were staying with his BIL John Lacey, there is no mention of his wife Mary.

I don'y know who Mary Doyle is as Mary and John Lacy's parents were Roger and Elinor/Helen Lacy.
The up shot of all this is Mary's dau Ellen McDonough came to Australia ca 1871, stayed with her Aunt Jane and later m William Justin - they were my husband's great grand parents. Thanks again everyone, Cheers from Austraila  -40 deg here today a good time to stay inside and do some research.
Lacy/Lacey Ireland & Liverpool
Finnan Liverpool
McDonough Liverpool
Riseley England/Victoria,Australia
Hood England/Victoria Australia
Baglin England/Tasmania & Victoria Australia
Sroull Pollockshaws/Glasgow
Sinclair Pollockshaws/Glasgow
Crerar McCallum Cumming/Glasgow area

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Re: Kirwan/mcdonough
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 03 January 15 07:48 GMT (UK) »
Dennis Kirwan in 1871 is listed as the unmarried brother in law of John Lacey.   

I wonder if he is related to John's wife Margaret and was never married to Mary??   So Mary died as Mary Mcdonough??  Just a thought.   

Kay