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Re William Kelly
« on: Saturday 03 January 15 22:50 GMT (UK) »
I hope that someone may have info. William Kelly lived in Boston, Suffolk, USA 1845 his daughter born around 1845 in USA.  They came to Lancashire in 1860 and Rosanna married a Peter Proctor from Accrington. She then married a James Cuerden and stayed here till her death.  But don't know about William and as to why they came from America and  did he go back - tailor by trade

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Re: Re William Kelly
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 03 January 15 22:56 GMT (UK) »
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They came to Lancashire in 1860

In 1861 - Rosanna is aged 16 and in lodgings in Accrington.

When and where was William Kelly born?  Who was his wife?
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Re: Re William Kelly
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 03 January 15 23:36 GMT (UK) »
Really struggling with anything about William

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Re: Re William Kelly
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 03 January 15 23:52 GMT (UK) »
You say they came to Lancashire in 1860 - where did you get that date from?

It would be unusual for the whole family to come to the UK in 1860 then return to the USA before 1861 leaving their 16yr old daughter behind.

There are lots of 1861 entries for William Kelly in Lancashire so without some additional info about the rest of the family it's difficult to pinpoint the right one

Did you get his name from the 1862 and 1876 marriage certs or do you have other independant evidence of his existence
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Re: Re William Kelly
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 04 January 15 17:30 GMT (UK) »
The info has come from the marriage certificate in 1876 with Rosanna and James Cuerden and he signed as Rosanna's father.  Previously she married first time in 186I don't have any other evidence.

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Re: Re William Kelly
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 04 January 15 17:35 GMT (UK) »
Civil marriage records don't usually record the relationship, if any, between the couple and the witnesses. So, how do you know that the William Kelly who signed the 1876 marriage certificate was her father?

Looking at both marriages- what's listed as father's name and occupation?

Have you tried to see if there's any connection between Rosanna and any of the witnesses?
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Re: Re William Kelly
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 04 January 15 19:01 GMT (UK) »
Yes cheers for that will do.

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Re: Re William Kelly
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 04 January 15 21:47 GMT (UK) »
Hello,
The witnesses to that marriage were John Cottam and Sarah Cottam.  William Kelly is shown as Rosanna's father but he did not sign the certificate.

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Re: Re William Kelly
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 04 January 15 22:20 GMT (UK) »
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Previously she married first time in 186I don't have any other evidence.

She married in 1862 at Christ Church Accrington and her father is also shown as William. 

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