Two records - are they the same person?

[bugbear]

I have an easy to document GG Father; Thomas William Womack.

Born Dec 1878, (FreeBMD      Guiltcross    4b   247)
Married Sep 1917 (FreeBMD     Woolwich    1d   2251)

(I have good census info from Ac*ry)

I also found (google!) a Thomas William Womack in the Boer War:
http://www.britishbadgeforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22757

"Sgt Rix's cousin, 21427 Tpr. Thomas William Womack of the 7th (1st PAOLYC) Coy, 4th Bn. Imperial Yoemanry"

So - to repeat my subject line - are these one-and-the-same?

  BugBear

[LizzieL]

FindMyPast has a brief transcription of a record for the T W Womack who was in the Boer War. It says he was slightly wounded on 4 Jun 1901 at Braklaagte. 
Do you have him on the 1901 census which would be about 2 months before that event?.

[bugbear]

FindMyPast has a brief transcription of a record for the T W Womack who was in the Boer War. It says he was slightly wounded on 4 Jun 1901 at Braklaagte. 

Any DOB/Attestation details that might ID him?

Do you have him on the 1901 census which would be about 2 months before that event?.

No - that's where the mystery started. But I thought the Army were pretty good
at filling in regimental census forms?

I certainly have someone in India, 1911, on a great big census form.

 BugBear

[Jebber]

I don't know about the marriage but the birth reference is the same man, Trp. Womack was Born in Norwich at that time, his service records are on Findmypast.


Sorry I meant Thetford Norfolk

[LizzieL]

No details of Dob etc unfortunately, the record is just from the casualty roll.
Is your Thomas William the son of Frederick Thomas Womack and Emma Smith Womack b 02/09/1876 and bapt 14/03/1880 at Kenninghall, NFK.
Trying to trace Sergeant Thomas Blakeley Rix (21421) who is said to be the cousin of Lance Corp T W Womack might be useful.

Just seen more detailed record without the middle name - b Kenninghall but 1879

[bugbear]

Given the rarity of the name, it looks like we(I) have a single induividual.

Thanks to all.

 BugBear

[LizzieL]

The more detailed record has the following:
The T W Womack who served in Boer war attested on 30 Jan 1901  at age of 22 and 4 months he says NOK was Frederick Thomas Womack occ farmer of College Farm, Ovington, Watton Norfolk. The record says he was in S Africa from 1899 to 1902 (so not in England for 1901 census) and again mentions the slight wound.
He was dischaged on 18 Aug 1902, his age was stated as 23 yrs and 10 months.
So the same person as the baptism I found, except it looks like dob was mistranscribed and should be 1878 not 1876.

[bugbear]

The more detailed record has the following:
The T W Womack who served in Boer war attested on 30 Jan 1901  at age of 22 and 4 months he says NOK was Frederick Thomas Womack occ farmer of College Farm, Ovington, Watton Norfolk. The record says he was in S Africa from 1899 to 1902 (so not in England for 1901 census) and again mentions the slight wound.
He was dischaged on 18 Aug 1902, his age was stated as 23 yrs and 10 months.
So the same person as the baptism I found, except it looks like dob was mistranscribed and should be 1878 not 1876.

Excellent detail!

Wait. What? The "in South Africa" period and the attestation date are "interesting". It appears the
at he was in SA for 2 years before he attested.

Oh, and thanks to a previous thread about images in familysearch, I can confirm that the 76/78 thing is a mistranscription.

here's the scan (top left)

  BugBear

[spotter2015]

Members of the army who were serving overseas at the time of the 1901 census weren't enumerated, that didn't start until the 1911 census.