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Certificate advice - Sorted Thanks lovely peeps
« on: Wednesday 07 January 15 11:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I just need a bit of advice  and your opinions please.

Being on a very limited budget, which certificate - Marriage or Birth - will help most in tracing a line backwards when very little info is known about a family?

I know the marriage and birth details of a couple but I do not know their parents, apart from their surname. I don't want to buy all 3 certificates and I do enjoy the search and elimination process.

What do you all do?

Thanks vinpip x


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Re: Certificate advice
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 07 January 15 12:01 GMT (UK) »
I would say in the first instance & depending on circumstances, the marriage certificate is most useful - it should give both fathers' names & occupations + abode of both parties + witnesses who may be siblings. This can allow you to tackle the censuses.

However, depending on the date, the parish records may have been scanned by, say, ancestry & all those details are there & a certificate not be necessary to obtain those details. 

What's the date of the marriage & do you know where?
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: Certificate advice
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 07 January 15 12:08 GMT (UK) »
The Marriage is 1948 in Birmingham.

Thanks for your advice and response :D

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Re: Certificate advice
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 07 January 15 12:48 GMT (UK) »
OK, so too recent for parish records  :). And perhaps too recent to be able to connect back to censuses; the couple were probably born in the mid 1920s. Also too recent [unless you know he/she/they are deceased] for you to mention their names here.

From what you say, there is no-one around/alive/willing who can be asked for further information? Have you tried a search of their names on this site/ancestry/google? Surprising what that can turn up.
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON


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Re: Certificate advice
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 07 January 15 12:59 GMT (UK) »
Do you know when the couple were born?

A search on FreeBMD will show Mother's Maiden Name, if the birth is after 1911.
From that you search for a marriage with both surnames?
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Re: Certificate advice
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 07 January 15 13:32 GMT (UK) »
The Midlands Electoral Registers are online at Ancestry.

This could be useful if the bride and groom were over 21 at the time of the marriage.
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Re: Certificate advice
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 07 January 15 13:40 GMT (UK) »
josey
It's difficult without census and parish records isn't it! I agree it's too recent to post details. I've looked up on anc. & FindMyPast but a bit ambiguous results. Thank you for your advice  and I think a marriage cert would be the way to go if I have to buy anything.

kGarrad
I do know their birth dates. Freebmd - yes I've just done it and come up trumps thank you :) I forget to look there as I have subs to anc & FindMyPast - it certainly is a lot clearer and simpler.

dawnsh
Thanks for that - I shall have a look there :)

Thank you all very much you are such a great help <3

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Re: Certificate advice - Sorted Thanks lovely peeps
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 07 January 15 14:40 GMT (UK) »

Just in case you don't know......the cheapest place for certificates is GRO:

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

£9.25 and arrive within 7-10 days.


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