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Re: Annie Taylor & Joseph Denning
« Reply #9 on: Friday 09 January 15 22:27 GMT (UK) »
This is where the name Job for her father is recorded - familysearch.org
Joseph Denning and Ann Taylor
Married Dec 1861  at St Mary'S, Almondsbury, Gloucester, England
Ann age 22 born 1839 Father Job Taylor
Joseph age 30 Father Ebenezer denning

I wonder if the J is a mistranscription of Rob? But if the baptism is hers then it is looking as if she was illegitimate. I can't see her, or Lucy on the 1841 census as yet. Of course Lucy may have married anytime after An's baptism but there are quite a few Lucy Taylors marrying in the 12 years between 1839 and 1851

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Re: Annie Taylor & Joseph Denning
« Reply #10 on: Friday 09 January 15 22:35 GMT (UK) »
Deleted because 10 years out for age.

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Re: Annie Taylor & Joseph Denning
« Reply #11 on: Friday 09 January 15 22:55 GMT (UK) »
Wow, thanks for the fast response.
I found out about her being a native of Bristol in an obituary printed in Camperdown Chronicle Thursday 17 May 1923 on the Trove site. Do you think the possible illegitimacy would explain the english and welsh nationality on her emigration records?

I'm really interested in the names of the Dennings on that census/ and any census with Joseph and Annie living together.

Annie's future husband Joseph is in the 1851 census at Crossways, Somerset, Shepton Mallet

Ebenezer   Denning   Head   Married   Male   61   1790   Ag Lab   Stoke Lane, Somerset, England
Betsy   Denning   Wife   Married   Female   51   1800   -   Stoke Lane, Somerset, England
Joseph   Denning   Son   Unmarried   Male   21   1830   Ag Lab   Stoke Lane, Somerset, England
John   Denning   Son   Unmarried   Male   19   1832   Ag Lab   Stoke Lane, Somerset, England
Henry   Denning   Son   Unmarried   Male   16   1835   Ag Lab   Stoke Lane, Somerset, England
Abraham   Denning   Son   Unmarried   Male   12   1839   Scholar   Stoke Lane, Somerset, England
Philip   Denning   Son   Unmarried   Male   9   1842   Scholar   Stoke Lane, Somerset, England
Thomas   Denning   Son   -   Male   14   1837   Scholar   Stoke Lane, Somerset, England

Then by the 1861 census I can't find Joseph, or some of the other Denning sons. I just have Josephs mum and dad with one remaining son Phillip

1861 census Upper End, Stoke Lane, Shepton Mallet.
Ebenezer   Denning   Head   Married   Male   61   1800   Day Labourer   Stoke Lane, Somerset, England
Betty   Denning   Wife   Married   Female   61   1800   -   Stoke Lane, Somerset, England
Philip   Denning   Son   Unmarried   Male   19   1842   Road Labourer   Stoke Lane, Somerset, England

Urquhart, Penman, Duncan, Snell, Benallack, Denning, Amor, Bishop, Jones, Thomas, Hordley, Hall, Titley, Ellis


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Re: Annie Taylor & Joseph Denning
« Reply #12 on: Friday 09 January 15 23:06 GMT (UK) »
I was wondering if this could be Annie father. Found this on family search

Name:   Robert Taylor
Event Type:   Burial
Event Date:   30 Nov 1862
Event Place:   Bristol, Holy Trinity, St Philip, Gloucestershire, England
Age:   47
Father's Name:   Taylor
Digital Folder Number: 4183225 , Image Number: 00033
Urquhart, Penman, Duncan, Snell, Benallack, Denning, Amor, Bishop, Jones, Thomas, Hordley, Hall, Titley, Ellis

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Re: Annie Taylor & Joseph Denning
« Reply #13 on: Friday 09 January 15 23:21 GMT (UK) »
It does not say English and Welsh on the records.

As crisane explained, there is a column headed 'England and Wales' and if the person was born in either of those countries an entry would be made in that column, and in her case it specified Gloster.  There is no query over where she thought she was born, it is recorded as Gloster.

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Re: Annie Taylor & Joseph Denning
« Reply #14 on: Friday 09 January 15 23:24 GMT (UK) »
As Annie and Joseph marry in Almondsbury in late 1861, have you looked for either of them there, in 1861 census?

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There is a Joseph there, birth year 1833, a lodger,  a possible?

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Re: Annie Taylor & Joseph Denning
« Reply #15 on: Friday 09 January 15 23:35 GMT (UK) »
1861 RG9 piece1747;\ folio 38 page 5
Canebrook? Almondsbury
Charles Westal  42 Railway Labourer
Elizabeth Westal  35
Henry Westal  15
John Westal  8
Thomas Westal  6
Alfred Westal  3
Elen Westal  5/12
Joseph Denning  28 Lodger born Fane? Tane? Somerset (it is just a squiggle for his occupation)

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Re: Annie Taylor & Joseph Denning
« Reply #16 on: Friday 09 January 15 23:47 GMT (UK) »
A possibility

1861 RG 9/1747/36/1
William Street Almondsbury
William Sherman  51 Ag lab
 Priscilla Sherman  46
 Mark Sherman  15
 Hanah Sherman  13
 Luke Sherman  11
 Walter Sherman  8
 Alice Sherman  6
 Priscilla Sherman  4
 Mary Ann Sherman  1
Annie Taylor  21 Visitor, servant born Iron Acton
(about 9/10 miles from Bristol and as we do now people tended to give the nearest large town to those who would have no idea where Iron Acton was) She has lowered her age but then again the Shermans may have been answering the enumerator's questions and not know exactly when she was born

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Re: Annie Taylor & Joseph Denning
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 10 January 15 07:32 GMT (UK) »
crisane,

That Annie Taylor, visitor, was the one i suggested on the first page, which is why I was looking at Almondsbury and iron Acton.

I then found in the 1851 census, a Mary Ann Taylor, born 1836 in Iron Acton, visitor in Iron Acton with an Ann Taylor age 60. unmarried seamstress, possibly 60 or 50, and a Betty Taylor widow, age 73 Chipping Sodbury.

I then thought I had got a breakthrough with an Ann Taylor, age 55,(too old but 1851 census was unclear) living in Iron Acton with a Job Taylor age 60 and a Mary Ann Taylor.  But Mary Ann looked to be 12, so deleted.

Perhaps I should have left it for opinions, so have put it again here.