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Boylans of Mullabrack - Please help!
« on: Sunday 11 January 15 14:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi there, I am trying to trace my ancestors from Armagh who moved to Greenock, Scotland in the late 1800s. The last record I have is of Patrick Boylan and Catherine McGarrity (or Garrity) wedding in September 1865 in Mullabrack. I think Patrick's father was a farmer and also named Patrick, his mother was Mary Doonan. Catherine's parents were Patrick McGarrity and Catherine Duffy. I have traced the family to Scotland, where their son played football for Morton and Woolwich Arsenal. Any help at all would be much appreciated!

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Re: Boylans of Mullabrack - Please help!
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 15 January 15 12:30 GMT (UK) »
Have you got their marriage record??  If so, it will give the address of bride and groom, father's name and occupation and the name of the church where they married.  Lots of clues there.
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Re: Boylans of Mullabrack - Please help!
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 15 January 15 13:19 GMT (UK) »
Unfortunately, no obvious Boylan or Garrity/McGarrity entries for Mullaghbrack in Griffiths Valuation:


http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths/armagh/mullaghbrack.php

What occupations were on their marriage? Just wondering if they were both working and living in the area rather than from the area, as I see on a post of yours elsewhere that you think they may have had an Antrim connection.
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Re: Boylans of Mullabrack - Please help!
« Reply #3 on: Monday 19 January 15 11:01 GMT (UK) »
According to Roots Ireland the marriage was in 1863 - a church record.  If they were Catholic there may not be a Civil record as Catholic marriages only had to be recorded after 1864
5 credits   Church Marriage   Gerraghty   Catherine   1863   Co. Armagh
This matches the Patrick Boylan search.
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Re: Boylans of Mullabrack - Please help!
« Reply #4 on: Monday 19 January 15 11:49 GMT (UK) »
Here is a Patrick Boylan in Griffiths in Loughgilly which adjoins Mullaghbrack

Boylan          Patrick             Ballygorman                     Loughgilly     Armagh

and here is a good wee site with local information

http://www.bygonesandbyways.com/mainmenu.htm
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Re: Boylans of Mullabrack - Please help!
« Reply #5 on: Monday 19 January 15 12:52 GMT (UK) »
The Boylan in Ballygorman does indeed sound a good possibility and worth pursuing further.

Interestingly, a Margaret Boylan of Ballygorman died in 1860 and her bequeaths in her will were to her grandchildren, a Patrick Boylan and his sister, Mary Anne Boylan. Details can be read on the PRONI Will Calendars database:

http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/will_calendars.htm

just search using Boylan in 'Surname' box and Ballygorman in 'Full Abstract' box.
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Re: Boylans of Mullabrack - Please help!
« Reply #6 on: Monday 19 January 15 17:03 GMT (UK) »
I'm afraid I don't have enough credits to access that  Boylan/Gerraghty marriage in 1863 which looks like the one we need.  Roots Ireland want another £20 from me to do so!!  Perhaps some kind soul who has spare credits would do the needful??
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Re: Boylans of Mullabrack - Please help!
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 11 February 15 21:45 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks for all of your replies! I only have found this so far:

Date of Marriage:   25-Sep-1863
Parish / District:   BALLYMORE      County:   ARMAGH
Husband      Wife
Name:   Patrick   Boylan      Catherine   Gerraghty
Address:         
Denomination:   Roman Catholic      Roman Catholic
Occupation:         
Age:         
Status:   Not Married      Not Married
Husband's Father      Wife's Father
Name:      Boylan         Gerraghty
Address:         
Denomination:         
Occupation:         
Husband's Mother      Wife's Mother
Name:               
Address:         
Denomination:         
Occupation:         
Witness 1      Witness 2
Name:   Downey   Edward      Corrigan   James
Address:         
Notes:
D O'TOOLE//

There's no mention of fathers names, however. Where could I get an actual copy of this wedding certificate?

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Re: Boylans of Mullabrack - Please help!
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 11 February 15 22:14 GMT (UK) »


There's no mention of fathers names, however. Where could I get an actual copy of this wedding certificate?

There won’t be a wedding certificate for this marriage. (It’s before the start of statutory registration for RC marriages – 1864). All there will be is the entry in the church records (from which this has been taken), which you can get from PRONI, and other sources, but it is unlikely to contain any additional information. All that was generally recorded in RC registers at that time was the couples names, the date of their marriage and the 2 witnesses names. (No fathers names or occupations etc).
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