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Offline Nettie

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Old Sayings and Modern Counterparts
« on: Monday 12 January 15 14:05 GMT (UK) »
Yesterday, my birthday-celebrating 73yo mother declared my highly active and very chatty, 29 month old daughter must have been vaccinated with a gramophone needle. This led to a two part discussion. 1) how long before such a saying is lost forever? And 2) is there a modern counterpart?

Somehow, I think 'she was slapped with an iTunes gift card' doesn't quite have the same ring to it.
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Re: Old Sayings and Modern Counterparts
« Reply #1 on: Monday 12 January 15 16:41 GMT (UK) »
Not sure about a modern equivalent but I do like your humorous attempt!  I too have wondered about sayings not being understood today.  Someone I was talking to recently mentioned the town of Keynsham at which my almost involuntary reaction was to say "spelled K E Y N S H A M".  My subsequent explanation fell on stony ground!

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« Reply #2 on: Monday 12 January 15 16:57 GMT (UK) »
Stony ground here too Max :) What is K E Y N S H A M ?
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« Reply #3 on: Monday 12 January 15 17:02 GMT (UK) »
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Keynsham rose to fame during the late 1950s and early 1960s when it featured in a long-running series of advertisements on Radio Luxembourg for Horace Batchelor's Infra-draw betting system.[12] To obtain the system, listeners had to write to Batchelor's Keynsham post office box, and Keynsham was always painstakingly spelled out on-air, with Batchelor famously intoning "Keynsham spelt K-E-Y-N-S-H-A-M Keynsham, Bristol". This was done because the proper pronunciation of Keynsham "Cane-sham" does not make the spelling of Keynsham immediately obvious to the radio listener

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Re: Old Sayings and Modern Counterparts
« Reply #4 on: Monday 12 January 15 17:36 GMT (UK) »
Well done Lostris, exactly right!  What many may find difficult to understand is why some of us find it necessary to parrot "spelled...." whenever we hear the name - you had to be there I suppose.
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« Reply #5 on: Monday 12 January 15 18:04 GMT (UK) »
Bit off topic but Horace Bachelor's advert was always with the shampoo ones 'Brunitex' for brown hair & was it 'StayBlond' for blonde?


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Re: Old Sayings and Modern Counterparts
« Reply #6 on: Monday 12 January 15 22:35 GMT (UK) »
Amazing. I listened to Luxembourg in my youth, but cannot remember "Caynsham" at all. Just goes to show how selective memory can be.
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« Reply #7 on: Monday 12 January 15 22:42 GMT (UK) »
I remember chanting Keynsham and then spelling it out along with the radio and it became a mantra.
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Re: Old Sayings and Modern Counterparts
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 13 January 15 00:15 GMT (UK) »
How would you explain my mother's mantra . . "if ifs and ands were pots and pans we wouldn't need tinkers to mend them"
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